Planetary Motion with satellite

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The problem involves a satellite in circular orbit around a planet, where the satellite's mass, orbital period, and the gravitational acceleration on the planet's surface are provided. The goal is to determine the radius of the planet, which introduces complexities due to the unknown mass of the planet.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss calculating the satellite's velocity using its orbital period and circumference. There are questions regarding the relationship between the radius of the satellite's orbit and the radius of the planet. Some participants explore the implications of using Kepler's laws and gravitational equations to relate the variables.

Discussion Status

There is active engagement with various approaches being explored, including the application of Kepler's laws and gravitational equations. Participants are clarifying assumptions and discussing the implications of their calculations, but no consensus on a specific method or solution has been reached.

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Participants note the gravitational acceleration value provided and its relevance to the calculations. There is mention of differing values used in calculations, which may affect the results. The discussion also reflects on the constraints of not providing complete solutions as per forum guidelines.

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Homework Statement



A 20 kg satellite has a circular orbit with a period 2.4 h and radius 8.0×106m around a planet of unknown mass. If the magnitude of the gravitational
acceleration on the surface of the planet is 8.0 m/s2, what is the radius of the
planet?

Homework Equations



F = Gm1m2/r2
Fc = m1v2/r
v=D/T, D=\pir

The Attempt at a Solution



So I got the velocity of the the satellite by using speed=distance/time where the distance is the circumference of the orbit or \pir and T is the period in seconds. I'm having trouble because there is an unknown mass of the planet and its radius. How do I go about finding this values? Any help is much appreciated.
 
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This is from the 2011 paper, it's actually a lot easier than it looks.

T = period ## T = (2.4)(3600) = 8640 s ##

Okay so I did this question using Kepler's second law (law of periods). It's a very useful law and is worth learning.

<content deleted -- complete worked solutions are not permitted> -- gneill, PF Mentor
 
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I thought the radius value was RTotal = RSatellite + RPlanet.

Also using your method I got r = 5.3x106. Did you use g=9.8 or is there some other difference between or values? Also thanks for the help.
 
It's not the acceleration of the Earth its the acceleration of the planet ## a_g = 8.0 m/s^2 ## So let's break this down, we use Kepler's second law, using a little bit of algebra this relation provides is with an approximation of the mass of the planet. Having the mass of the planet and the acceleration of the planet we have the radius of the planet.

## ∑F = ma_g = \frac{GMm}{r^2} ## which implies ## a_g = \frac{GM}{r^2} ##
 
What is the radial acceleration of the satellite at 8x106 m? You know the radial acceleration at this location, you know radial acceleration at the surface, and you know that the radial acceleration is inversely proportional to the square of the radius.

Chet
 
patrickmoloney said:
This is from the 2011 paper, it's actually a lot easier than it looks.

T = period ## T = (2.4)(3600) = 8640 s ##

Okay so I did this question using Kepler's second law (law of periods). It's a very useful law and is worth learning.

<worked solution content deleted -- gneill, PF Mentor>

You're not supposed to solve the problem. Just explain how the solution works.
 
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Ok thanks for clearing that up and all the help guys
 

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