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The discussion revolves around confirming the correctness of a mathematical set representation, specifically focusing on the notation and elements included in the set. The subject area pertains to set theory and mathematical expressions.

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  • Participants discuss the accuracy of the set representation, with some suggesting the inclusion of specific elements like ##x=\pm 4##. Others explore how to express the set more precisely and professionally, considering the implications of closed intervals.

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Homework Statement
Write each of the following sets by listing their elements between braces.
Relevant Equations
None.
Can anyone please check/confirm if the set is correct? I've boxed around my answer.
 

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Math100 said:
Homework Statement:: Write each of the following sets by listing their elements between braces.
Relevant Equations:: None.

Can anyone please check/confirm if the set is correct? I've boxed around my answer.
Almost. What about ##x=\pm 4##?
 
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fresh_42 said:
Almost. What about ##x=\pm 4##?
Oh, yes! You just reminded me something. I am so sorry, I forgot that this is a closed interval where both 4 and -4 are included in the set.
 
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How about this time? Is it correct?
 

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Math100 said:
How about this time? Is it correct?
That's ok. You could write it in the following way if you want to be precise:
\begin{align*}
\{5x\,|\,x\in \mathbb{Z}\wedge |2x|\leq 8\}&=5\cdot \{x\in \mathbb{Z}\,|\,2\cdot |x|\leq 8\}=5\cdot \{x\in \mathbb{Z}\,|\, |x|\leq 4\}\\&=5\cdot \{x\in \mathbb{Z}\,|\, -4\leq x\leq 4\}=5\cdot\{-4,-3,-2,-1,0,1,2,3,4\}\\
&=\{-20,-15,-10,-5,0,5,10,15,20\}
\end{align*}

(edited to make it shorter)
 
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fresh_42 said:
That's ok. You could write it in the following way if you want to be precise:
\begin{align*}
\{5x\,|\,x\in \mathbb{Z}\wedge |2x|\leq 8\}&=5\cdot \{x\in \mathbb{Z}\,|\,2\cdot |x|\leq 8\}=5\cdot \{x\in \mathbb{Z}\,|\, |x|\leq 4\}\\&=5\cdot \{x\in \mathbb{Z}\,|\, -4\leq x\leq 4\}=5\cdot\{-4,-3,-2,-1,0,1,2,3,4\}\\
&=\{-20,-15,-10,-5,0,5,10,15,20\}
\end{align*}

(edited to make it shorter)
Thank you so much for this! I think this is much more precise and professional! I've never seen this before!
 
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As a minor point, whatever follows "therefore" should be a statement, such as an equality or inequality, not just an expression, such as {-4, -3, -2, -1, 0, 1, 2, 3, 4}.

Following @fresh_42's work, you could conclude something like this:
Therefore, ##\{5x\,|\,x\in \mathbb{Z}\wedge |2x|\leq 8\} =\{-20,-15,-10,-5,0,5,10,15,20\}##
 
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Mark44 said:
As a minor point, whatever follows "therefore" should be a statement, such as an equality or inequality, not just an expression, such as {-4, -3, -2, -1, 0, 1, 2, 3, 4}.

Following @fresh_42's work, you could conclude something like this:
Therefore, ##\{5x\,|\,x\in \mathbb{Z}\wedge |2x|\leq 8\} =\{-20,-15,-10,-5,0,5,10,15,20\}##
Thank you for pointing that out, I will keep that in mind.
 

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