Point Charge and Charged Sphere

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around a problem involving a point charge located at the center of a thick conducting shell, with specific parameters given for charge and dimensions. The main focus is on calculating the electric field at a point outside the shell and determining the surface charge density at the outer edge of the shell.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to calculate the electric field by summing contributions from both the point charge and the conducting shell, using relevant equations. Some participants question the assumptions made regarding the electric field outside the conducting sphere and suggest reconsidering the approach to finding the surface charge density.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some providing hints that have helped the original poster move closer to a correct answer. There is ongoing clarification regarding the calculation of surface charge density, with differing interpretations of the area used in the calculations.

Contextual Notes

There are indications of confusion regarding the application of formulas and the definitions of charge in relation to the conducting shell. The original poster expresses uncertainty about the correct approach to finding the surface charge density.

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Homework Statement


A point charge q1 = -7 μC is located at the center of a thick conducting shell of inner radius a = 2.6 cm and outer radius b = 4.9 cm, The conducting shell has a net charge of q2 = 1.1 μC.
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What is Ex(P), the value of the x-component of the electric field at point P, located a distance 8.9 cm along the x-axis from q1?

Homework Equations


(1.)For an electric field outside of a conducting sphere(where r>R), E=Q/ (4pi Epsilon naught r^2)
(2.)Electric Field of Point Charge, E= kQ/r^2

The Attempt at a Solution


OK, so what I did was try to the sum of the electric fields first from the point charge in the center using equation (2.) and then I added that to the electric field outside the sphere to the point using equation (1.) and my Q as q2.
Doing this I get -1774598 N/C when the answer should be -6703699 N/C. I am not very good at E&M so I would appreciate all help.
 
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Hi ThirdEyeBlind! :smile:

(try using the X2 and X2 icons just above the Reply box :wink:)

Hint: what is the electric field outside a sphere of radius > b ? :wink:
 
Alright so now I am getting the correct answer thanks to your hint but I am now stuck on another part.

What is σb, the surface charge density at the outer edge of the shell?
I was just thinking it would have been (1.1E-6 C) / (.049 m2 - .026 m2 * pi)
which is the charge of the conducting shell divided by the area of the shell. However the answer is -0.00019554 C/m2 so I don't understand how they get that.
 
Hi ThirdEyeBlind! :smile:

(just got up :zzz: …)
ThirdEyeBlind said:
What is σb, the surface charge density at the outer edge of the shell?
I was just thinking it would have been (1.1E-6 C) / (.049 m2 - .026 m2 * pi)
which is the charge of the conducting shell divided by the area of the shell.

Sorry, but this is completely wrong. :redface:

For the surface charge density at the outer edge, you use only the area of the outer edge (isn't that obvious? :confused:).

Also, it's 4πr2 for the area, not πr2.

Also, you need to find the charge on the outer edge, not the net charge.
 

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