Point on a Curve: Solving Related Rates Problems

  • Thread starter Thread starter jgens
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Curve Point
Click For Summary
To find the point along the curve y = 4 - x^2 where x and y change at the same rate, it is established that x' = y' and y' = -2xx'. Solving the equation -2x = 1 leads to x = -1/2, which gives the corresponding y value of 15/4, resulting in the point (-1/2, 15/4). However, it is clarified that the assumption of x and y varying with respect to an external parameter is unnecessary. The correct condition for equal rates of change is when the derivative y'(x) equals 1.
jgens
Gold Member
Messages
1,575
Reaction score
50

Homework Statement



A particle moves along a path described by y = 4 - x^2. At what point along the curve are x and y changing at the same rate

Homework Equations



Simple equations regarding derivatives.

The Attempt at a Solution



It's been a while before I've done any related rates problems, could someone please let me know if this is correct:

Since, x and y must be changing at the same rate (presumably with respect to time) x' = y' and y' = -2xx'. Therefore, -2x = 1 and x = -1/2. Placing my x value into the original equation yields 15/4. Hence, the point is (-1/2, 15/4).

Thanks.
 
Physics news on Phys.org
SEEMS correct...
 
Of course, it's right. What could go wrong?
 
Plenty, I could have made an incorrect assumption ultimately leading to false conclusions.
 
Good answer but you do not need to assume that x and y are varying wrt an external parameter. The derivative y'(x) = dy/dx of y wrt x expresses the instantaneous rate of change of y wrt a change in x.

The points where y and x are changing at the same rate are those where y'(x)=1.
 
Question: A clock's minute hand has length 4 and its hour hand has length 3. What is the distance between the tips at the moment when it is increasing most rapidly?(Putnam Exam Question) Answer: Making assumption that both the hands moves at constant angular velocities, the answer is ## \sqrt{7} .## But don't you think this assumption is somewhat doubtful and wrong?

Similar threads

  • · Replies 8 ·
Replies
8
Views
2K
Replies
5
Views
2K
  • · Replies 27 ·
Replies
27
Views
2K
Replies
15
Views
2K
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 10 ·
Replies
10
Views
2K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
2K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
1K