Polymer Solution Thermodynamics: Flory-Huggins Theory of Polymer Solutions

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The discussion centers on the derivation of the partial molar Gibbs free energy of mixing using the Flory-Huggins theory. The key equation for Gibbs Free Energy of Mixing is ΔGM=R·T[n1·ln(ϕ1)+n2·ln(ϕ2)+n1·ϕ2], where R is the gas constant, and ϕ1 and ϕ2 are the volume fractions of solvent and polymer, respectively. Participants discuss the challenges of taking partial derivatives and the correct application of the Flory-Huggins interaction parameter. The conversation concludes with the realization of the correct approach to the derivatives involved in the equations.

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Homework Statement


(Note: This isn't an assignment problem, more a curiosity about the derivation of an equation - hopefully it is still posted in the right forum..)

I have working through the derivation for the partial molar Gibbs free energy of mixing from the Flory-Huggins expression for the Gibbs free energy of mixing, however my math skills are (very) rusty - especially when it comes to partial derivatives.

Homework Equations


Gibbs Free Energy of Mixing (Flory-Huggins Theory):
ΔGM=R·T[n1·ln(ϕ1)+n2·ln(ϕ2)+n1·
79c40dd2b43f3c03eaf88b5fc4c199b8.png
·ϕ2]

partial molar Gibbs free energy of dilution:
Δμ1=R·T[ln(1-ϕ2)+(1-1/r)·ϕ2 +
79c40dd2b43f3c03eaf88b5fc4c199b8.png
·ϕ22]

where
KB=Boltzmann Constant,
ni=number of moles of i,
ϕi=volume fraction of i,
79c40dd2b43f3c03eaf88b5fc4c199b8.png
=Flory-Huggins Interaction Parameter

ϕ1=N1/N0=N1/(N1+r·N2)
ϕ2=(r·N2)/N0=(r·N2)/(N1+r·N2)
N0=N1+r·N2

where
N0 is the number of lattice sites
N1 is the number of solvent molecules
N2 is the number of polymer molecules, each occupying "r" lattice sites (or "r" segments)

and R=KB·NA
where
NA= Avogadro's constant

The Attempt at a Solution


ΔGM=R·T[n1·ln(ϕ1)+n2·ln(ϕ2)+n1·
79c40dd2b43f3c03eaf88b5fc4c199b8.png
·ϕ2]

applying R=KB·NA
ΔGM=KB·T[N1·ln(ϕ1)+N2·ln(ϕ2)+N1·
79c40dd2b43f3c03eaf88b5fc4c199b8.png
·ϕ2]

expressing ϕ1 and ϕ2 in terms of N1 and N2 gives
ΔGM=KB·T[N1·ln(N1/(N1+r·N2))+N2·ln((r·N2)/(N1+r·N2))+N1·
79c40dd2b43f3c03eaf88b5fc4c199b8.png
·(r·N2)/(N1+r·N2)]

Next step would be to take the partial derivative of the equation with respect to N1, I've tried many times but I cannot get anything close to the equation for the partial molar Gibbs free energy of dilution..

I broke it up, letting
Ψ1=N1·ln(N1/(N1+r·N2))
Ψ2=N2·ln((r·N2)/(N1+r·N2))
Ψ3=N1·
79c40dd2b43f3c03eaf88b5fc4c199b8.png
·(r·N2)/(N1+r·N2)

taking the partial derivative
1/dN1=ln(N1/(N1+rN2)+[1-(N1+rN1N2)/(N1+rN2)]
2/dN1=-N2[(1+rN2)/(N1+rN2)]
2/dN1=
79c40dd2b43f3c03eaf88b5fc4c199b8.png
[(rN2)/(N1+rN2)]+N1
79c40dd2b43f3c03eaf88b5fc4c199b8.png
[(-rN2)/(N1+rN2)2

which when I plug it all back in, gives me a big mess..
 
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tetrakis said:

Homework Statement


(Note: This isn't an assignment problem, more a curiosity about the derivation of an equation - hopefully it is still posted in the right forum..)

I have working through the derivation for the partial molar Gibbs free energy of mixing from the Flory-Huggins expression for the Gibbs free energy of mixing, however my math skills are (very) rusty - especially when it comes to partial derivatives.

Homework Equations


Gibbs Free Energy of Mixing (Flory-Huggins Theory):
ΔGM=R·T[n1·ln(ϕ1)+n2·ln(ϕ2)+n1·[PLAIN]https://upload.wikimedia.org/math/7/9/c/79c40dd2b43f3c03eaf88b5fc4c199b8.png·ϕ[SUB]2[/SUB]]

partial molar Gibbs free energy of dilution:
Δμ1=R·T[ln(1-ϕ2)+(1-1/r)·ϕ2 +[PLAIN]https://upload.wikimedia.org/math/7/9/c/79c40dd2b43f3c03eaf88b5fc4c199b8.png·ϕ[SUB]2[/SUB][SUP]2[/SUP]]

where
KB=Boltzmann Constant,
ni=number of moles of i,
ϕi=volume fraction of i,
[PLAIN]https://upload.wikimedia.org/math/7/9/c/79c40dd2b43f3c03eaf88b5fc4c199b8.png=Flory-Huggins Interaction Parameter

ϕ1=N1/N0=N1/(N1+r·N2)
ϕ2=(r·N2)/N0=(r·N2)/(N1+r·N2)
N0=N1+r·N2

where
N0 is the number of lattice sites
N1 is the number of solvent molecules
N2 is the number of polymer molecules, each occupying "r" lattice sites (or "r" segments)

and R=KB·NA
where
NA= Avogadro's constant

The Attempt at a Solution


ΔGM=R·T[n1·ln(ϕ1)+n2·ln(ϕ2)+n1·[PLAIN]https://upload.wikimedia.org/math/7/9/c/79c40dd2b43f3c03eaf88b5fc4c199b8.png·ϕ[SUB]2[/SUB]]

applying R=KB·NA
ΔGM=KB·T[N1·ln(ϕ1)+N2·ln(ϕ2)+N1·[PLAIN]https://upload.wikimedia.org/math/7/9/c/79c40dd2b43f3c03eaf88b5fc4c199b8.png·ϕ[SUB]2[/SUB]]

expressing ϕ1 and ϕ2 in terms of N1 and N2 gives
ΔGM=KB·T[N1·ln(N1/(N1+r·N2))+N2·ln((r·N2)/(N1+r·N2))+N1·[PLAIN]https://upload.wikimedia.org/math/7/9/c/79c40dd2b43f3c03eaf88b5fc4c199b8.png·(r·N[SUB]2[/SUB])/(N[SUB]1[/SUB]+r·N[SUB]2[/SUB])]

Next step would be to take the partial derivative of the equation with respect to N1, I've tried many times but I cannot get anything close to the equation for the partial molar Gibbs free energy of dilution..

I broke it up, letting
Ψ1=N1·ln(N1/(N1+r·N2))
Ψ2=N2·ln((r·N2)/(N1+r·N2))
Ψ3=N1·[PLAIN]https://upload.wikimedia.org/math/7/9/c/79c40dd2b43f3c03eaf88b5fc4c199b8.png·(r·N[SUB]2[/SUB])/(N[SUB]1[/SUB]+r·N[SUB]2[/SUB])

taking the partial derivative
1/dN1=ln(N1/(N1+rN2)+[1-(N1+rN1N2)/(N1+rN2)]
2/dN1=-N2[(1+rN2)/(N1+rN2)]
3/dN1=[PLAIN]https://upload.wikimedia.org/math/7/9/c/79c40dd2b43f3c03eaf88b5fc4c199b8.png[(rN[SUB]2[/SUB])/(N[SUB]1[/SUB]+rN[SUB]2[/SUB])]+N[SUB]1[/SUB][PLAIN]https://upload.wikimedia.org/math/7/9/c/79c40dd2b43f3c03eaf88b5fc4c199b8.png[(-rN[SUB]2[/SUB])/(N[SUB]1[/SUB]+rN[SUB]2[/SUB])[SUP]2[/SUP]

which when I plug it all back in, gives me a big mess..
Start out with ##\frac{\partial \psi _3}{\partial n_1}##. You need to reduce the rhs to the least common denominator. You almost have it. At least get that term.

Chet
 
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Chestermiller said:
Start out with ##\frac{\partial \psi _3}{\partial n_1}##. You need to reduce the rhs to the least common denominator. You almost have it. At least get that term.

Chet

Hey Chet,
Thanks for the help, I've got the third term now. Am I even close with the other 2 terms? I've been playing around with them a bit more, but I can't quite seem to get it, especially the first term with the ln(1-ϕ2)
 
for ##\frac{\partial \psi _2}{\partial N_1}## I'm taking ##\frac{\partial N _2}{\partial N_1}## and ##\frac{\partial ln(rN_2)}{\partial N_1}## as zero based on the assumption that it is similar to taking the derivative of a constant, would this be correct?
 
tetrakis said:
for ##\frac{\partial \psi _2}{\partial N_1}## I'm taking ##\frac{\partial N _2}{\partial N_1}## and ##\frac{\partial ln(rN_2)}{\partial N_1}## as zero based on the assumption that it is similar to taking the derivative of a constant, would this be correct?
This is correct. But your partial derivatives of psi1 and psi2 with respect to n1 are both incorrect. You need to be more careful. Try again.

Also note the phi1 = 1 - phi2

Chet
 
Chestermiller said:
This is correct. But your partial derivatives of psi1 and psi2 with respect to n1 are both incorrect. You need to be more careful. Try again.

Also note the phi1 = 1 - phi2

Chet
Thank you, I've gotten the correct equation now.
 

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