Polynomial Long Division w Integrals

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The discussion revolves around performing polynomial long division within the context of integrating a rational function. Participants explore different methods for simplifying the integral of the expression $$\int \frac{3x^2 - 2}{x^2 - 2x - 8} dx$$, including polynomial long division and partial fraction decomposition.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about using long division for a rational function with two terms and mentions factoring instead.
  • Another participant suggests that synthetic division is not recommended for quadratic denominators and advises using polynomial long division with all descending powers of x included.
  • A participant proposes rewriting the integral by expressing the numerator in terms of the denominator, leading to a new integral form.
  • Further, the same participant breaks down the integral into simpler components, suggesting the use of partial fraction decomposition for the remaining terms.
  • Another participant questions the steps taken in rewriting the numerator and seeks clarification on the derivation of additional terms, indicating a lack of understanding of the method used.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the best approach to take for the integral. There are differing opinions on the use of long division versus factoring, and some participants express confusion about the steps involved in the proposed methods.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved questions regarding the steps taken in the polynomial long division and the introduction of additional terms in the numerator. The discussion reflects varying levels of familiarity with the techniques involved.

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I do not understand how I would do this with long division since there is only 2 terms. I can't remember the trick. Here is what I have so far.
$$
\int \frac{3x^2 - 2}{x^2 - 2x - 8} dx$$

so I got $$\int 3 + \frac{x^2 - 2}{(x - 4)(x + 2)}$$

I'm not sure if that's right? I just factored it out instead of long division. I Don't recall what "synthetic division" is either.

So I have $$(x - 4)(x + 2) = A(x+2) + B(x-4)$$Am I on the right track or no?
 
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Synthetic division is possible, but not usually recommended when the denominator is quadratic or higher. To do polynomial long division, just make sure that the dividend and the divisor have all the descending powers of $x$. If there are any missing powers, add it in as follows:
$$ \frac{3x^2-2}{x^2 -2x-8}= \frac{3x^2+0x-2}{x^2-2x-8}.$$
Now do the usual long division algorithm.
 
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shamieh said:
I do not understand how I would do this with long division since there is only 2 terms. I can't remember the trick. Here is what I have so far.
$$
\int \frac{3x^2 - 2}{x^2 - 2x - 8} dx$$

so I got $$\int 3 + \frac{x^2 - 2}{(x - 4)(x + 2)}$$

I'm not sure if that's right? I just factored it out instead of long division. I Don't recall what "synthetic division" is either.

So I have $$(x - 4)(x + 2) = A(x+2) + B(x-4)$$Am I on the right track or no?
I would re-write:

$3x^2 - 2 = 3(x^2 - 2x - 8) + 6x + 22$

This turns your integral into:

[math]\int \frac{3x^2 - 2}{x^2 - 2x - 8}dx = \int 3\ dx + \int\frac{6x + 22}{x^2 - 2x - 8}dx[/math]

Next, re-write $6x + 22$ as $6(x + 2) + 10$

so that:

[math]\int\frac{6x + 22}{x^2 - 2x - 8}dx = \int \frac{6}{x - 4}dx + \int\frac{10}{x^2 - 2x - 8}dx[/math]

Now you're in a position to use "partial fraction decomposition", by solving:

$A(x - 4) + B(x + 2) = 10$ leading to:

$A + B = 0$
$2B - 4A = 10$

which should not be that hard.
 
Deveno said:
I would re-write:

$3x^2 - 2 = 3(x^2 - 2x - 8) + 6x + 22$

What is going on here Deveno? Your setting the numerator = to the denominator? Where are those extra terms coming from? Are you completing the square? I am lost, can you show me a little detail on this particular step just so I can understand.

Thanks again for your help in advance.
 
shamieh said:
What is going on here Deveno? Your setting the numerator = to the denominator? Where are those extra terms coming from? Are you completing the square? I am lost, can you show me a little detail on this particular step just so I can understand.

Thanks again for your help in advance.

Deveno is using the fact that:

$$3x^2-2=3x^2+6x-6x-24+22=3\left(x^2-2x-8 \right)+6x+22$$
 

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