Population III Stars Metallicity

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the relationship between metallicity and the formation of early Population III stars in the universe, focusing on their mass and characteristics. It explores theoretical implications and the potential mechanisms involved in stellar formation, particularly in the context of metal-poor environments.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that early Population III stars were very metal poor or metal free and required to be much larger than today's stars, potentially up to hundreds of solar masses.
  • One participant suggests that metals can catalyze fusion and reduce pressure in gas clouds, which may influence stellar mass, although the details of this process are unclear.
  • Another participant questions whether the relationship between metallicity and stellar mass is causal or merely correlational, proposing that other factors might also contribute to the size of older stars.
  • A participant mentions having read that the formation of supermassive stars was linked to metallicity, indicating a belief in its significance.
  • One participant summarizes a proposed mechanism: no metals lead to less cooling, resulting in higher temperatures and consequently higher Jeans mass, which could lead to higher stellar mass.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the role of metallicity in determining stellar mass, with some supporting its significance while others question the extent of its influence and suggest alternative explanations. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the exact nature of the relationship.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the discussion regarding the assumptions made about the mechanisms linking metallicity to stellar mass, as well as the dependence on specific definitions of terms like "cooling" and "Jeans mass." Unresolved mathematical steps and the complexity of stellar formation processes are also acknowledged.

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Early Population III stars in the universe were very metal poor if not metal free and were apparently required to be much larger than todays stars, up to hundreds of solar masses, to form. What does the metallicity have to do with this?
 
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Metals can catalyze fusion, metals can emit light and reduce the pressure in gas clouds.
Put everything in a simulation, and you might get some estimate for stellar masses somehow - no idea how this works in detail.
 
Are you sure this is a causation rather than a correlation? Perhaps older stars were larger for some other reason? I can't see how metallicity would have THIS much of a drastic effect on stellar masses, I would suspect there has to be some other cause along with the metallicity.
 
I have no idea Matterwave. I've merely read that the reason super massive stars were the only ones that could form was because of metallicity. Or at least that was what I got from it.
 
I think you can summarize the idea simply: No metals = Less cooling = Higher temperatures = Higher Jeans mass = Higher stellar mass

This seems to be a good overview of the situation (pdf): http://arxiv.org/pdf/astro-ph/0102503v3.pdf
 
Nice paper, thanks Nick!
 

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