Porsche challenges a Honda acceleration

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The problem involves a race between a Porsche and a Honda over a distance of 400 meters, with the Porsche having a higher acceleration than the Honda and the latter receiving a head start. The discussion centers around the mathematical modeling of the cars' motions using kinematic equations.

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  • Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss setting up equations for acceleration, velocity, and distance as functions of time. There are questions about the correct integration of these equations and the validity of the expressions used for acceleration.

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Some participants have provided feedback on the original poster's approach, suggesting corrections to the expressions for acceleration and discussing alternative methods for solving the problem. There is an ongoing exploration of different ways to approach the solution.

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Participants are navigating through assumptions about constant acceleration and the integration process, while also considering the implications of the head start given to the Honda.

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Homework Statement


A Porsche challenges a Honda to a 400-m race. Because the Porsche's acceleration of 3.5m/s2 is larger than the Honda's 3.0m/s2, the Honda gets a 50-m head start. Both cars start accelerating at the same instant. Who wins?

The Attempt at a Solution


The only thing I'm not sure about is how to get the velocity from a given acceleration. How do you figure it out mathematically?

Edit: So basically I set up both things as a function of time, and I integrated.

Porsche: a(t) = 3.5t
Porsche: v(t) = (3.5/2)t^2
Porsche: s(t) = (3.5/6)t^3

Honda: a(t) = 3t
Honda: v(t) = (3/2)t^2
Honda: s(t) = (1/2)t^3 + 50

Using these formulas, I calculated that the Porsche wins! Does it look correct?
 
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Zhalfirin88 said:
Edit: So basically I set up both things as a function of time, and I integrated.

Porsche: a(t) = 3.5t
Porsche: v(t) = (3.5/2)t^2
Porsche: s(t) = (3.5/6)t^3

Honda: a(t) = 3t
Honda: v(t) = (3/2)t^2
Honda: s(t) = (1/2)t^3 + 50

your expressions for a(t) are wrong, they are constant and don't depend on time. So just redo the integration and find the time when the distance is 400m.
 


Okay thanks, the Porsche still won ^_^. But anyways, is that how you'd normally solve it? I'm pretty sure there are other ways but that just seemed like the easiest and first thing that I thought of.
 


Zhalfirin88 said:
Okay thanks, the Porsche still won ^_^. But anyways, is that how you'd normally solve it? I'm pretty sure there are other ways but that just seemed like the easiest and first thing that I thought of.

yes that is how you'd do it. Though instead of integrating you could have just used the direct result from the kinematic equation: s=1/2at2
 

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