Position of Block on Incline w/ & w/o Friction

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The discussion revolves around determining the position of a block on an incline as a function of time, considering both frictional and frictionless scenarios. The subject area includes dynamics and kinematics, particularly focusing on forces acting on an object on an inclined plane.

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  • The original poster attempts to derive equations for the position of the block under two conditions: with friction and without friction. Some participants question the absence of the coefficient of kinetic friction in the calculations and seek clarification on the orientation of the axes used in the problem.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing feedback on the original poster's assumptions and equations. There is a mix of interpretations regarding the coefficient of friction, and some guidance has been offered regarding the nature of static versus kinetic friction. The free body diagram has been acknowledged as acceptable by one participant.

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Participants note that the coefficient of friction is not provided in the problem statement, leading to assumptions about its value. There is also a discussion about the correct interpretation of the angle in relation to the coefficient of friction.

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Find the position of the block as a function of time for both cases:
a)friction
b)frictionless

Here're my answers. Please check to see if they're correct. The free body diagram are attached.

https://www.physicsforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=7068&stc=1&d=1149476915
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a) x(t)= .5g(cos(theta)-sin(theta))t^2
b) x(t)= .5gsin(theta)t^2
 

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Although I can't see your attachments , where's the coefficient of kinetic friction in the first part of the question ?
Also is your X-axis along the incline ?
 
arunbg said:
Although I can't see your attachments , where's the coefficient of kinetic friction in the first part of the question ?
Also is your X-axis along the incline ?

coefficient of friction is not given, so i just assume it's mu (u). i don't know if one can do this or not. But if one has to calculate it, u is usually tan(theta).


And yes, x-axis is along the incline.
 
ksle82 said:
coefficient of friction is not given, so i just assume it's mu (u). i don't know if one can do this or not. But if one has to calculate it, u is usually tan(theta).
That's not true, in general. What you are probably thinking of is the relationship between the coefficient of static friction (between an object and a surface) and the (special) angle at which the object just begins to slide. For that specific angle, [itex]\mu_s = \tan\theta[/itex].

But what you what is the coefficient of kinetic (sliding) friction, assuming the object starts from almost rest. What's the exact statement of the problem?

Your free body diagram looks OK to me.
 

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