Positions & Agendas Supported in US - Get Informed

[Ivan Seeking]

Which positions or agendas do you support [U.S.]?

 

[russ_watters]

Several of those were too vague or too specific (simplistic) to really answer, but depending on the specifics of the proposals, I might support any of the last 5.

 

[Jimmy Snyder]

Yes, quite vague, but that never stopped me before. I support the following:

Abortion made illegal
Amnesty for illegal aliens
Strong environmental protection laws
Mostly unregulated imports and trade
Throw out the existing tax structure
Increase taxes on the rich

 

[fleem]

One big 'IF' here is whether you mean state law or federal law. The Articles of Confederation and the U.S. Constitution made very clear what the people wanted--state sovereignty, and with the purpose of the federal government strictly to protect that state sovereignty and nothing else.

95% of what the current U.S. Federal Government does is unconstitutional. Most or all of these issues in this poll are up to the states. In fact, it is the state's DUTY to defy the federal government when it violates the Constitution. This is why I hope politically minded people stop thinking of state politics as boring and of little consequence, when, in fact, the only way to keep the federal government in check is with state governments willing to stand up against it, like when California defies federal marijuana laws.

So because of the current power grab of the federal government, I find it wiser to give states more power than either the people or the federal government. A pure libertarian gives freedom to the people, then state, then fed, in that order. I give it to states, then people, then fed... until the federal government gets back in line. I do this because states have a lot more power to subdue the federal government (by defying it) than do the people, so states must have more power at the moment. Besides, people have freedom to move to a different state if they don't like the state they live in. Its the free market in the political arena.

I decided to assume you meant state law for this poll. Here's how I believe:

NO - Ban all private gun ownership [more or less]
YES - Abortion made illegal
DEPENDS - Amnesty for illegal aliens
NO - Allow domestic wire taps without oversight
DEPENDS - Strong environmental protection laws
YES - Mostly unregulated imports and trade
YES - Elimination of the National debt
YES (FairTax) - Throw out the existing tax structure
NO - Increase taxes on the rich

 

[Ivan Seeking]

Several of those were too vague or too specific (simplistic) to really answer, but depending on the specifics of the proposals, I might support any of the last 5.

Could you specify what you didn't understand?

 

[Evo]

I strongly support abortion being legal.

 

[out of whack]

Ivan, does the [U.S.] clause in the poll question mean that the question is directed only at US citizens? Or is it directed at everyone ABOUT the US?

Meanwhile...

Ban all private gun ownership [more or less] - still undecided
Abortion made illegal - no, why?
Amnesty for illegal aliens - some, not total
Allow domestic wire taps without oversight - allow NOTHING without oversight
Strong environmental protection laws - strongER within reason
Mostly unregulated imports and trade - remove tariff but retain health/safety requirements
Elimination of the National debt - definitely
Throw out the existing tax structure - replaced by what?
Increase taxes on the rich - flat income/sales tax for all, no exception

 

[cristo]

YES - Abortion made illegal

Why would you make abortion illegal? To me that is nonsensical-- do people not have the freedom of choice in your vision of society?

 

[Ivan Seeking]

Ivan, does the [U.S.] clause in the poll question mean that the question is directed only at US citizens? Or is it directed at everyone ABOUT the US?

This was intended for the US and US citizens but it doesn't really matter. Everyone has a voice here.

 

[Math Is Hard]

I support giving maps to all the U.S. Americans who can't afford them.

 

[Moonbear]

I voted none of the above, but might support a few of those depending on how they were accomplished or what they were replaced with (i.e., environmental protection laws, and the last three).

 

[GleefulNihilism]

Ban all private gun ownership [more or less] -- No, but ammunition should be much more expensive.
Abortion made illegal -- Hell No, I'm not about to butcher women's rights in exchange for something that may become be a human being one day. At least Two-Thirds of Blastocysts flush away with the next period anyway, so by the logic most anti-abortionists produce God agrees with me.
Amnesty for illegal aliens -- We are supposed to be the great melting pot. Rather a dozen guilty go free then one innocent suffer and all that rot.
Allow domestic wire taps without oversight -- **** No. This is alone would make the Bush administration deserving of a human rights abuse trial in my humble opinion.
Strong environmental protection laws -- Since most the counter arguments seem based on appeals to human greed and stupidity I'm going to have to agree. I don't feel particularly attached to nature either but at least there's something better being appealled to.
Mostly unregulated imports and trade -- I was going to say yes, but my regulations while simple are to broad to say yes in good conscience. Nothing coming in or going out to countries whose governments are known for human rights abuses. Also, nothing coming in that would qualify as a human rights abuse- like liquid mercury laced candy.
Elimination of the National debt -- The fact that we even have one as large is evidence of corruption and wanton greed in my mind.
Throw out the existing tax structure -- Basically a Flat tax for all.
Increase taxes on the rich -- No loopholes that the rich can really exploit in the flat tax so in effect it would be a massive tax increase, although technically on paper it would look like a cut.

 

[out of whack]

I support giving maps to all the U.S. Americans who can't afford them.

 

[Moonbear]

I support giving maps to all the U.S. Americans who can't afford them.

Running for Miss...um...I think I need a map to remember what you'd be "Miss" of?

 

[DaveC426913]

Huh. Making abortion illegal is more predominant than I would have expected.

 

[Ivan Seeking]

Running for Miss...um...I think I need a map to remember what you'd be "Miss" of?

Miss Cartographer

 

[Evo]

I support giving maps to all the U.S. Americans who can't afford them.

US Americans, as opposed to the South African Americans or the The Iraq Americans.

 

[Astronuc]

Running for Miss...um...I think I need a map to remember what you'd be "Miss" of?

Mischief!

 

[Office_Shredder]

Huh. Making abortion illegal is more predominant than I would have expected.

Are we looking at the same poll?

 

[ShawnD]

Huh. Making abortion illegal is more predominant than I would have expected.

I'm more surprised about the lack of support to eliminate national debt

 

[Moonbear]

I'm more surprised about the lack of support to eliminate national debt

I'd support reduction, but the goal of complete elimination would require some rather drastic measures to accomplish any time soon. So, maybe it's a matter of interpretation there.

 

[Ivan Seeking]

There are also fundamental economic arguments for having a debt. I would have to look them up but I have read about this before.

 

[mheslep]

Abortion made illegal -- Hell No, I'm not about to butcher women's rights in exchange for something that may become be a human being one day. At least Two-Thirds of Blastocysts flush away with the next period anyway, so by the logic most

Ok, but at one point do you believe the human being comes into existence?

 

[ShawnD]

There are also fundamental economic arguments for having a debt. I would have to look them up but I have read about this before.

I heard that too, but I can't remember what the reason was.

This is a bit off topic, but my home province of Alberta eliminated the provincial debt a few years back, and they no longer issue bonds. Provincial profits now go into what's called the Alberta Heritage Savings Trust Fund, which is now worth about 16 billion. Last year it gave a dividend and everybody in the province received a check for $400, just in time for the election

Not quite sure why a country can't do the same thing.

 

[Moonbear]

There are also fundamental economic arguments for having a debt. I would have to look them up but I have read about this before.

Yeah, I have vague recollection of reading that somewhere too, but am not using it as part of my argument because I can't recall any details, or even if it was a reasonable argument I ended up even agreeing with.

 

[Astronuc]

I think that chronic and accumulating debt is not good. Of course, those doing debt service have a vested interest in maintain or increasing debt. Those cost of debt on the many is the profit/income of a few.

 

[DaveC426913]

Are we looking at the same poll?

I'm surprised it's more than zero.

 

[ShawnD]

It looks like "good debt" is when the government takes loans to get the economy going again, such as give tax cuts and run a deficit when the economy is in a slump. Can't find anything else.

 

[mheslep]

I'm surprised it's more than zero.

Why would you be surprised?
http://www.pollingreport.com/abortion.htm" Poll Oct '07:

"Do you think abortion should be legal in all cases, legal in most cases, illegal in most cases, or illegal in all cases?"
Oct '07 %
Legal in All Cases 21
Legal in Most Cases 32
Illegal in Most Cases 24
Illegal in All Cases 14
Unsure 8

 

[Jimmy Snyder]

Why would you make abortion illegal? To me that is nonsensical-- do people not have the freedom of choice in your vision of society?

In my vision of society people would have as much freedom of choice as makes sense and no more. After all, rapists would not be allowed freedom to choose their victims in your vision of society, right? Why are you against freedom of choice? In my vision, women would still have the right to choose, but not the right to choose murder any more than men would. My ancestors in Europe were at the loosing end of a political debate as to whether they were human or not. I don't want to go through that again.