Positron neutrino=electron antineutrino

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The discussion centers around the relationship between positron neutrinos and electron antineutrinos, exploring concepts in particle physics, particularly the nature of neutrinos and their antiparticles. Participants examine definitions, classifications, and theories related to neutrinos, including the implications of different models.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that the positron-neutrino is not the same as the electron-antineutrino and question whether a positron-antineutrino exists.
  • Others clarify that the term "electron neutrino" refers to a specific generation in the Standard Model, and its antiparticle is termed anti-electron neutrino.
  • There is a discussion about the classification of neutrinos, with references to three types: electron-neutrino, muon-neutrino, and tau-neutrino, and inquiries into their differences.
  • One participant introduces the theory of Majorana neutrinos, suggesting that neutrinos and antineutrinos may be the same particle, which is a point of contention among physicists.
  • Another participant discusses the implications of the CPT Theorem, stating that neutrinos and antineutrinos must have the same mass if they are not Majorana particles, and highlights the conservation of lepton number in particle interactions.
  • There is mention of the distinction between neutrinos and their antiparticles based on lepton flavor numbers, despite both being electrically neutral.
  • Participants express uncertainty about the interpretation of responses and seek further clarification on the differences between the types of neutrinos.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on whether positron neutrinos and electron antineutrinos are the same, and there are multiple competing views regarding the nature of neutrinos and their antiparticles, particularly concerning the Majorana theory.

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Limitations include unresolved definitions of neutrinos and antineutrinos, the implications of mass in the context of Majorana versus Dirac neutrinos, and the scope of lepton number conservation in particle interactions.

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Hi everybody,

Basically, the title of this thread says it all.

My question is: Since all particles have an antiparticle and the positron is the electron's antiparticle, does that mean the positron-neutrino is the same as the electron-antineutrino?
If not, is there such a thing as a positron-antineutrino?

I'm a beginner when it comes to particle physics and I'm now just learning about it through website called particleadventure.org.
 
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"Electron neutrino" is just the name of the thing, so it's anti-particle is called an anti-electron neutrino. You should view "anti-" as prefixing the whole name, not just the electron part. Anti-neutrinos don't have anything to do with the fermion they "belong" to, the "electron" in "electron neutrino" just refers to the generation of the standard model it belongs to (namely, that of which the fermion is called electron).
 
The 'electron' in the name electron-neutrino, refers to the generation it belongs to.

The first generation of leptons are: Electron, Positron, Electron-Neutrino, Anti-electron-neutrino

The Second is: Muon, Anti-muon, Muon-neutrino, Anti-muon-neutrino

The peculiarity is that positron is just a fancy name for anti-electron.
 
Thanks, now I know they are the same. I got thrown of cause the website called it a electron-anti-neutrino instead of a anti-electron-neutrino.
I do have another question though;
I know there are 3 types of neutrinos, but what's the difference between them. Is it they're mass?
Also , how can there be anti-neutrinos when they don't have any electrical charge or strong charge?
 
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There is a theory that there are no "antineutrinos" - that is, the neutrino and ANTI-neutrino are the same particle, for each generation. These are called "Majorana neutrinos" and it is a very popular theory among neutrino physicists.

To your next question: Assuming neutrinos are NOT Majorana, the CPT Theorem of Quantum Field Theory states that neutrinos and antineutrinos (or any particle-antiparticle pair) must have the same mass. The difference between (anti)neutrinos is that they carry "lepton quantum number" +1 (-1) respectively. Since we have not as yet seen (at least directly) lepton-number violation, that suggests that only certain types of neutrinos can come out of various experiments. For example: if you produce an electron (L=+1), then you must also produce an ANTI-neutrino to conserve lepton number.

If neutrinos are Majorana, then lepton number would be violated and you can have very funny processes happening. This is an important constraint for incorporating Majorana neutrinos into the Standard Model. However, it can be done (in fact, it can be done very easily, especially if you believe in "Grand Unification").

Hope that helps!
 
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There is a theory that there are no "antineutrinos" - that is, the neutrino and ANTI-neutrino are the same particle, for each generation. These are called "Majorana neutrinos" and it is a very popular theory among neutrino physicists.

I actually read about that theory a few minutes ago on Wikipedia.
I'm not sure how to interpret your second answer, cause it's sound like another response to my second question. (It was helpful though).
Concerning my first question;
I know there are 3 types of neutrinos (not counting the anti-neutrinos): the electron-neutrino, the tau-neutrino and the muon-neutrino. What I wanted to know is what the difference is between those 3 neutrinos?

If your second answer was a directed at my first question, could you please elaborate.
 
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sorry. you asked about the difference between neutrinos and their antiparticles. all i was trying to say was that if you believe in Majorana neutrinos, then there is NO difference.

However, in the Standard Model, where neutrinos are massless, the difference between the particles is that they carry lepton number. In fact, they actually carry lepton-FLAVOR number (electron number, muon number, tau number), where L = E + M + T. So even though they are electrically neutral and color neutral, they are not "lepton number" neutral and there is a way to distinguish the neutrinos from antineutrinos.

That answers your most recent question (electron neutrino has the quantum numbers E=1, M=0, T=0, etc).

Of course, we now know that the neutrinos are NOT massless, so whether they have Majorana mass (which violates the lepton charge) or a lepton-number-conserving mass (known among particle physicists as "Dirac mass") is an open and hotly-debated question.

Hope that helps.
 

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