Possibility and detection of this chemical equilibrium

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the chemical equilibrium involving the conversion between dichromate ions (Cr2O72-) and chromate ions (CrO42-) in aqueous solutions, particularly focusing on the effects of pH and the potential for spectroscopic detection of the ions. The scope includes theoretical considerations, chemical analysis applications, and the implications of acidity on the equilibrium constant.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes that the equilibrium Cr2O72- + OH- ⇔ 2CrO42- + H+ could occur in appreciable quantities and suggests that the acidity of the water would influence the equilibrium constant and the concentrations of the chromium-containing anions.
  • Another participant agrees that the equilibrium is pH dependent and notes its application in separating barium and strontium in chemical analysis, indicating that BaCrO4 is less soluble than SrCrO4 even in acidic conditions.
  • A later reply questions whether an equilibrium can be established merely by adding sodium chromate to water, or if specific amounts of hydronium and hydroxide ions are necessary for the reaction to occur.
  • Additional references to external resources are provided, including links to Wikipedia and other educational pages that discuss the equilibrium constant and concentration ratios of chromate and dichromate ions.
  • One participant mentions a previous thread that included calculations related to this chemical system.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the pH dependence of the equilibrium and its relevance in chemical analysis. However, there is uncertainty regarding the conditions necessary for establishing the equilibrium, indicating that multiple views remain on this aspect.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include potential missing assumptions about the concentrations of ions required to establish equilibrium and the specific conditions under which the equilibrium constant applies. The discussion does not resolve whether hydronium and hydroxide ions are essential for the reaction.

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Dissolve a salt containingCr2O72- and an "inert cation" in water, would the following equilibrium occur in appreciable quantity?

Cr2O72-+OH-⇔2CrO42-+H+

If it does occur, I suppose the acidity of the water would affect the equilibrium constant (or at least the relative concentration of the Chromium-containing anion). In this case, would it be possible to determine the concentration of each anion with a spectrometer?
 
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The equilibrium certainly is important and pH dependent, as you say. It is used to separate Ba and Sr in chemical analysis, as BaCrO4 is less soluble than SrCrO4 and will form even in acidic solutions. It should be possible to follow the equilibrium spectroscopically.
 
DrDu said:
The equilibrium certainly is important and pH dependent, as you say. It is used to separate Ba and Sr in chemical analysis, as BaCrO4 is less soluble than SrCrO4 and will form even in acidic solutions. It should be possible to follow the equilibrium spectroscopically.
thank you for your reply, I would like to confirm just one more thing, that is an equilibrium can be established simply by adding sodium chromate into water and both chromate and dichromate ions would be produced. Is that true? Or is is a certain amount of hydronium and hydroxide ions required?
 

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