Possible factor(s) of 2^(12n+9)+1

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In summary, the conversation discusses the divisibility of 2(12n+9)+1 by 24n+19 and whether it follows a specific pattern. It is observed that if 2(12n+9)+1 is a prime, then it must have an odd number of prime factors of the form 4k+3. However, a counterexample is found for n=38, where 2(12n+9)+1 is not divisible by 24n+19. The conversation then explores whether this pattern still holds for distinct prime factors of the form 4k+3 of 2(12n+9)+1.
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If the expression 2 x (12n+9) +1 has no prime factors of the form
4k+1 where k>0 , then 2^(12n+9)+1 is necessarily divisible by 24n+19.
Is this provable ?
It seems to hold true ..

nfactor(s) of (24n+19)(24n+19) divides 2(12n+9)+1 ?
019YES
143YES
267YES
37, 13NO
423, 5NO
5139YES
6163YES
711, 17NO
8211YES
947, 5 NO
107, 37NO
11283YES
 
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I have no idea on solution but rewrited the problem introducing
[tex]N=4n+3[/tex]
[tex]24n+19= 6N+1[/tex]
[tex]2^{12n+9}+1=8^{N}+1[/tex]
 
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24n+19 is of the form 4k+3, so it must have an odd number of prime factors of the form 4k+3. In particular, if it does not have a prime factor of the form 4k+1 it must have an odd number of prime factors.

n=38 is the first time that we get three prime factors of the form 4k+3 as 2*(12*38+9) +1 = 72*19.
212*38+9+1 is not divisible by 2*(12*38+9)+1, so we have a counterexample.

Does this pattern only apply if 2*(12*n+9) +1 is a prime?
 
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I noticed that all my examples where 2*(12*n+9)+1 divides 2(12n+9)+1 were
prime divisors. I will endeavor to find further counterexamples. Thanks .
 
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I should have noticed :-
for n=38

2(12*38+9)+1 is divisible by 7*19 . Does the pattern hold for the distinct
prime factors , P4k+3 , of 2*(12n +9)+1 ?
 

1. What is the possible factor(s) of 2^(12n+9)+1?

The possible factor(s) of 2^(12n+9)+1 are 2 and (2^(12n+9)+1) itself. These are the only two factors that can evenly divide the given expression.

2. How do you determine the factors of an expression like 2^(12n+9)+1?

To determine the factors of 2^(12n+9)+1, you can use the difference of squares formula, which states that a^2 - b^2 = (a+b)(a-b). In this case, a = 2^(6n+4) and b = 1. Therefore, the factors are (2^(6n+4)+1)(2^(6n+4)-1).

3. Can 2^(12n+9)+1 be factored further?

No, 2^(12n+9)+1 cannot be factored any further. This is because it is a prime number, meaning it is only divisible by 1 and itself.

4. How can you prove that 2^(12n+9)+1 is a prime number?

One way to prove that 2^(12n+9)+1 is a prime number is by using proof by contradiction. Assume that it is not a prime number and can be factored into two smaller numbers. However, this would contradict the fact that the only factors of 2^(12n+9)+1 are 2 and (2^(12n+9)+1) itself. Therefore, 2^(12n+9)+1 must be a prime number.

5. Are there any other possible factor(s) of 2^(12n+9)+1?

No, there are no other possible factor(s) of 2^(12n+9)+1. This is because all other numbers would either result in a decimal or a larger number, which cannot be a factor. The only two possible factors are 2 and (2^(12n+9)+1) itself.

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