A question regarding multiples of 3

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The discussion revolves around the mathematical expression "24-1(x2-1)=y" and its behavior when evaluated with odd multiples of 3 as inputs. Participants explore whether this expression can yield natural numbers under certain conditions, particularly focusing on odd multiples of 3 and their implications.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions why odd multiples of 3 do not yield natural numbers when substituted into the expression "24-1(x2-1)=y".
  • Another participant seeks clarification and examples to better understand the original question.
  • A later reply suggests that the expression can be rewritten as $$\frac{1}{24}(x^2-1)$$ and encourages participants to consider the mathematical implications of substituting odd multiples of 3 into this form.
  • One participant asks whether the expression x^2-1 can be divisible by 3 if x is itself divisible by 3.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express confusion and seek clarification, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved with multiple viewpoints and questions about the mathematical properties involved.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved assumptions regarding the definitions of natural numbers and the properties of the expression when evaluated with specific values. Some mathematical steps and implications are not fully explored.

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Why doesn't any odd multiple of 3 can give "24-1(x2-1)=y" as a result (y) a natural number? Obviously no even number will make "y" a natural number, but all of the odd numbers do, but odd multiples of 3 (3, 9, 15, 21, 27...).

x=1⇒y=0
x=3⇒y=1/3
x=5⇒y=1
x=7⇒y=2
x=9⇒y=10/3
x=11⇒y=5
x=13⇒y=7
x=15⇒y=28/3
x=17⇒y=12
x=19⇒y=15
x=21⇒y=55/3
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Can you explain this better perhaps by using an example?
 
jedishrfu said:
Can you explain this better perhaps by using an example?
I'm sorry, I typed it wrongly, it's not "1/2", it's "1/24".
 
Okay, but can you explain this better perhaps by using an example?

Is this a homework assignment?
 
jedishrfu said:
Okay, but can you explain this better perhaps by using an example?

Is this a homework assignment?
There, now I think it's WAY better understandable. I'm sorry. Lol
 
guifb99 said:
Why doesn't any odd multiple of 3 can give "24-1(x2-1)=y" as a result (y) a natural number? Obviously no even number will make "y" a natural number, but all of the odd numbers do, but odd multiples of 3 (3, 9, 15, 21, 27...).
You mean, why does the expression:
$$\frac{1}{24}(x^2-1)$$
not return an integer when ##x## is an odd multiple of 3? Think about what "odd multiple of 3" means mathematically and substitute that for ##x## in the expression above to see what you get.
 
Can x2-1 be divisible by 3 if x is divisible by 3?
 

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