# Postulate Approval: Get Help from Physics Experts

• VacuumChamber
In summary, the conversation discussed the concept of postulates in mathematics and physics, as well as the process of gaining approval for a new postulate. It was mentioned that postulates in mathematics are not proven, but rather accepted as part of the definition, whereas postulates in physics are based on experimental evidence. The conversation also touched on the importance of experiments in verifying or falsifying a postulate, and the potential limitations of gaining approval from Mother Nature.
VacuumChamber
Hi guys!
I am new here, but anyway i will try my best in this forum
I subscribed to a physics forum mostly for this: Postulate aproovement
I have made a postulate and i don't know what to do to approve it
Just like einstein's two postulates, about speed of light
Can anyone help me about the postulates?

A postulate is a statement that is assumed to be true because it cannot be proven to be true. It is accepted as a given. If a statement can be proven, then there is no need to invoke it as a postulate. You can say that any statement is a postulate, even if it is obviously not true. But the usefulness of any particular postulate or set of postulates is the conclusions you can draw from them and whether or not they comport with reality.

When Einstein postulated that the speed of light is the same in all reference frames, he was not making a statement about measuring the round-trip speed of light--that was something that experimentation could validate. Instead, he was making a statement about the one-way speed of light, which cannot be measured and cannot be proven to be true. But assuming it to be true allows you to build a consistent, useful, and simple science.

I hope this helps.

There is a sharp difference between "postulates" in mathematics and in physics.

In mathematics, "postulates" are not proven because they are part of the definition of the particular kind of mathematics you are working with.

In physics, "postulates" are given by experimental evidence.

I am not sure what you mean by "made a postulate" nor what you mean by 'approvement'.

With approvement i mean, in every book they say: Einstein found this and that...
So i did the same thing as einstein did at that time, but with smth else, a new theory
for instance: einstein did 2 postulates, i have done only 1
einstein found 3 facts about these postulates to prove them (did 3 experiments)
I found 5 facts about my postulate to prove it
einstein proved the speed of light is the max possible speed
I can prove that people can live 1000 years or more with my postulate (infinite years of life)
Now i want my postulate to be approved as it is mine (because i invented it). I have all things needed: facts, experiments etc.
How can i do this?

VacuumChamber said:
With approvement i mean, in every book they say: Einstein found this and that...
So i did the same thing as einstein did at that time, but with smth else, a new theory
for instance: einstein did 2 postulates, i have done only 1
einstein found 3 facts about these postulates to prove them (did 3 experiments)
I found 5 facts about my postulate to prove it
einstein proved the speed of light is the max possible speed
I can prove that people can live 1000 years or more with my postulate (infinite years of life)
Now i want my postulate to be approved as it is mine (because i invented it). I have all things needed: facts, experiments etc.
How can i do this?
So what you have is a new theory. The place for this is the independent research section of these forums. If you visit the following link, you will see the detailed rules for posting an alternative theory on that forum, whose purpose is exactly what you want: critical evalution of your new theory. You will need to invest substantial time in formulating to meet the posting rules.

https://www.physicsforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=146

VacuumChamber said:
With approvement i mean, in every book they say: Einstein found this and that...
So i did the same thing as einstein did at that time, but with smth else, a new theory
for instance: einstein did 2 postulates, i have done only 1
einstein found 3 facts about these postulates to prove them (did 3 experiments)
I found 5 facts about my postulate to prove it
einstein proved the speed of light is the max possible speed
I can prove that people can live 1000 years or more with my postulate (infinite years of life)
Now i want my postulate to be approved as it is mine (because i invented it). I have all things needed: facts, experiments etc.
How can i do this?

I can give you some tips on writing your Nobel prize acceptance speech. Actually, you can have mine since it looks like I won't be needing it.

Seriously, look at some examples of scientific papers and try to follow the format.

VacuumChamber said:
With approvement i mean, in every book they say: Einstein found this and that...
So i did the same thing as einstein did at that time, but with smth else, a new theory
for instance: einstein did 2 postulates, i have done only 1
einstein found 3 facts about these postulates to prove them (did 3 experiments)
I found 5 facts about my postulate to prove it
einstein proved the speed of light is the max possible speed
I can prove that people can live 1000 years or more with my postulate (infinite years of life)
Now i want my postulate to be approved as it is mine (because i invented it). I have all things needed: facts, experiments etc.
How can i do this?

Postulates don't get "approved", they get verified experimentally. You need to set up a series of experiments that attempt to falsify your postulate. For as long as the experiments fail to falsify your postulate, the postulate remains in place. It takes just one experiment to falsify your postulate and the postulate is gone.

The Ad Hoc Committee for Postulate Approvement is a rather small committee, with only one voting member. However, since she is Mother Nature she always has a lot to do so she never responds to e-mails and has an unlisted phone number. Generally, the only way to get her approval is to perform an experiment which could verify or falsify the postulate and see how she votes. Of course, all approvals are tentative and all rejections are final and without appeal. Also, the experimental ballots are known to have hanging chads, error bars, confounding effects, and all sorts of other problems, but they are not regulated by the Supreme Court so we just have to live with the situation and recounts are common.

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DaleSpam said:
The Ad Hoc Committee for Postulate Approvement is a rather small committee, with only one voting member. However, since she is Mother Nature she always has a lot to do so she never responds to e-mails and has an unlisted phone number. Generally, the only way to get her approval is to perform an experiment which could verify or falsify the postulate and see how she votes. Of course, all approvals are tentative and all rejections are final and without appeal. Also, the experimental ballots are known to have hanging chads, error bars, confounding effects, and all sorts of other problems, but they are not regulated by the Supreme Court so we just have to live with the situation and recounts are common.

You fail one experiment and you're out.

All the experiments i have done and found from other books or documentaires simply cannot make the postulate fail for real! I have asked professors with doctor degree to fail, but they say to me simply is not possible, without giving any facts why it is not possible

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VacuumChamber said:
All the experiments i have done and found from other books or documentaires simply fail for real! I have asked professors with doctor degree to fail, but they say to me simply is not possible, without giving any facts why it is not possible

What experiments have you done?

1. I have synchronized my watch with the one i have in my computer
All know that the time will change between the two, they will be desynchronized
I say that doing ...meters you loose 1 second of life
Now the experiment is:
I did ...meters and the watch was EXACTLY desynchronized 1 second
This is the FIRST experiment

2. Living in 100th floor you will live less
I have found how much less 1 year ago
Sweeden studies admitted that you get older in high floors and the study was published in less than one month ago (got from media)

3. Using the dopler effect we "win" 4 seconds every year because of the movement of andromeda galaxy (it goes away). This means that in dinosaurs days the life was 23 hours (this is not my experiment, but i found it ready from another book)

There are a lot more which i cannot publish because are personal experiments
I just published the "known" ones
None so far as i know has not proven my postulate to fail

Now I am excited to hear your postulate.

Do share!

That is all i can share man, i am excited about it too though

VacuumChamber said:
That is all i can share man, i am excited about it too though

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## 1. What is a postulate?

A postulate is a statement that is accepted as true without needing to be proven. In physics, postulates are used to establish the fundamental principles and laws that govern the behavior of the physical world.

## 2. Why is postulate approval important?

Postulate approval is important because it ensures that the fundamental principles and laws of physics are accurate and reliable. It also allows for the development of new theories and technologies based on these principles.

## 3. Who approves postulates?

Postulates are typically approved by scientific organizations or governing bodies, such as the International Union of Pure and Applied Physics (IUPAP) or the American Physical Society (APS). Individual scientists may also propose and gain approval for new postulates through peer-reviewed publications.

## 4. How do physics experts help with postulate approval?

Physics experts play a crucial role in postulate approval by reviewing and analyzing proposed postulates, conducting experiments and observations to test their validity, and providing feedback and suggestions for improvement.

## 5. Can anyone propose a postulate for approval?

Yes, anyone can propose a postulate for approval. However, it must undergo a rigorous review process and meet certain criteria, such as being based on empirical evidence and being consistent with existing scientific principles and laws.

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