Potassium Oxide: What is its Melting Point and Other Properties?

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The discussion centers around the melting point and decomposition properties of potassium oxide, exploring the conditions under which it decomposes and the nature of its decomposition products. Participants delve into theoretical aspects, experimental observations, and the implications of ionic compound behavior.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the melting point of potassium oxide, noting a source that claims it decomposes at 350 degrees Celsius, which seems contradictory to its occurrence as a by-product of wood fires.
  • Another participant explains that decomposition refers to the formation of cation and anion gases, suggesting that ionic compounds can decompose before melting or boiling.
  • A different participant expresses skepticism about the low decomposition temperature, stating that they would expect a higher energy requirement for decomposition compared to melting and requests references for further information.
  • One participant reflects on their understanding of phase changes in ionic compounds, indicating that they believe some do not melt but rather decompose into gases, and acknowledges the need for further research on potassium oxide's specific behavior.
  • Another participant raises questions about the conditions under which decomposition occurs, such as the presence of oxygen or an inert atmosphere, and speculates on possible decomposition products, including potassium superoxide and elemental potassium.
  • A later reply inquires about the formation of potassium nitride and whether superoxide would be a gaseous product as previously described.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the melting point or decomposition characteristics of potassium oxide. Multiple competing views and uncertainties regarding the conditions and products of decomposition remain evident throughout the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Participants express varying assumptions about the behavior of ionic compounds, the conditions necessary for decomposition, and the specific products formed, indicating a need for clarity on these points. There are references to experimental details that are not fully resolved in the discussion.

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Just what, exactly, is its melting point?

I came across a ICSC website saying it decomposes at 350 degrees Celsius. Now how is that supposed to make sense, when it is itself a by-product of wood fires?
 
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by decomposing they mean that it becomes its respective cation and anion gases. Ionic compounds may decompose before they are heated to melt or boil, you should review exactly how substances melt or boil with respect to the intermolecular attractions, kinetic energy, and the spatial aspects.
 
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by decomposing they mean that it becomes its respective cation and anion gases.
I've never come across something like this before (certainly not at temperatures as low as 350C). IMO, what you've described is (at least) highly unlikely, but then, that may just be something I'm unaware of. From my understanding of stuff like this, I would expect it took a lot more energy to "decompose" the ionic solid into a plasma than it would take to melt it. Do you have a reference I can look up ?
 
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well you're the inorganic chemist, so I can't really argue with you in relevance to experimental concerns. I simply remember that some ionic compounds do not melt (or is it boil?), I got the impression that phase changes are a bit different with ionic compounds. By "decomposing" I figured it meant just that (in the original post), that instead of melting, the ionic compound becomes its respective ionic gases, as I've learned during my undergraduate years that this is what commonly happens; pure textbook reference, I'll need to research upon the rigorous experimental details, specifically for potassium oxide and the in dynamic details undergoing, up till, its first stage in "decomposition."

I suspect that at this point that the temperature for the plasma formation would be significantly higher than that required for adequate atomization, again the process is a bit unclear at the moment. Perhaps you can suggest. I'll need to do so when I find the time (the semester has just started for me).
 
The real question here is: what is meant by "decomposing?" ...and under what conditions?

In the open air, with plenty of additional oxygen and nitrogen, et. al? In a vacuum? In some inert atmosphere, if so, what? And, of course, what are the decomposition products? Potassium (II) oxide? (unlikely at 350C) Potassium Superoxide? (maybe) Potassium (0) and Oxygen gas? (not in the air, probably not at all) If not these, what?

For what it is worth, both silver oxide and aluminum oxide thermally decompose to the elements, but neither of these elemental metals are as reactive as potassium.

A relatively quick Google search showed potassium oxide as common product of the thermal decompositon of other things, but the only thing I could find about heating potassium oxide itself was "produces toxic gases."
 
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Does any potassium nitride form?

The superoxide might make sense, but would it be a gas as described above?
 

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