Potential and Kinetic Energy: Down an incline with spring

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The discussion centers on a physics problem involving a 4.1 kg block sliding down a frictionless incline at a 26.0-degree angle, compressing a spring with a spring constant of 428 N/m. The block slides 18.0 cm before momentarily stopping, and the distance d down the incline is calculated to be 0.213 m. The user successfully applied the equations for gravitational potential energy (U = mgh) and spring potential energy (U = 0.5k(x^2)) to find the height and distance but struggled with the second part of the problem regarding the block's speed at the point of maximum compression. The correct relationship for the forces acting on the block was identified as mgsin(θ) = kx', clarifying the dynamics involved.

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Homework Statement



A 4.1 kg block starts at rest and slides a distance d down a frictionless 26.0 deg incline, where it runs into a spring. The block slides an additional 18.0 cm before it is brought to rest momentarily by compressing the spring, whose spring constant is 428 N/m .

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What is the value of d?..(answered)

What is the distance between the point of first contact and the point where the block's speed is greatest?...(need help)



Homework Equations



U = mgh

U = .5k(x^2)

The Attempt at a Solution



I found the answer to the first question by using the above relevant equations:

U = mgh = .5k(x^2)

4.1 * 9.81 * h = .5 * 428 * (.18^2)

h = 0.172 m

then some trig..

sin(26)=.172/(.18 + d)

d = .213 m

As far as how to solve the second question I am completely lost. At the point of contact with the spring the acceleration should be zero correct. From there would I need to find the intial velocity? We know that V_f = 0, but how to use these "known" quantities in relationship to the block being slowed by the spring is confusing me. I think I'm making this problem more complicated than it really is. TIA for your help.
 
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I tried using:

mgh = F_net * delta(x)

0.172 = (mgsin() - .5k(x^2))(.18 - x)

x = .162 m

This approach did not work...
 
Ok, I found with some help that mgsin()=kx' will get me the correct answer...however I am still confused where this came from...
 

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