Potential Energy & Conservative Forces #18

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The problem involves a skateboarder on a circular arc track, focusing on calculating the normal force at the bottom of the arc. The context includes concepts from mechanics, specifically potential energy, kinetic energy, and forces acting on an object in circular motion.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss using Newton's second law and conservation of energy to analyze the forces and energy changes involved. Questions arise about the derivation of the normal force and the calculation of velocity and acceleration.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants offering hints and guidance on using conservation of energy to find velocity and acceleration. There is a focus on understanding the relationships between gravitational potential energy, kinetic energy, and centripetal force.

Contextual Notes

Participants express confusion regarding the initial assumptions and calculations, particularly the origin of the factor of 6 in the normal force equation. There are also requests for clarification on the relevant equations and concepts needed to solve the problem.

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A skateboard track has the form of a circular arc with a 4.00 m radius, extending to an angle of 90.0° relative to the vertical on either side of the lowest point, as shown in the figure below.


A 55.9 kg skateboarder starts from rest at the top of the circular arc. What is the normal force exerted on the skateboarder at the bottom of the circular arc?

3287 N was not the correct answer.

can anyone give me some pointers on this problem? Sorry I can't post the picture for some reason.

I was figuring it out this way, but it isn't right:
the normal force exerted on the skateboarder at the bottom of the circular arc = 6mg
= 55.9 x 6 x 9.8 N
 
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Use Newton's 2nd law (as well as conservation of energy). What forces act on the skateboarder at the point in question? Hint: The acceleration is centripetal.
 
Where did you get 6mg from? First, use the fact that the work done by gravity from the top to the bottom equals the change of kinetic energy to obtain the speed at the bottom of the arc. Knowing the speed, you can calculate the centripetal force. You know the weight, so it shouldn't be difficult to calculate the normal force.
 
how do i figure out the velocity and the acceleration?

I need the velocity for the centripetal force equation & I need the acceleration for the f=ma equation.

thanks so much.
 
UCrazyBeautifulU said:
how do i figure out the velocity
Conservation of energy, as radou described.

and the acceleration?
What's the formula for centripetal acceleration?

Hint: Solve the problem algebraically (using symbols) until the last step.
 
f_cp = ma_cp = mv^2 / r

okay, I still have the velocity missing in this equation, so what do I do?
 
Use conservation of energy! How far does the skater fall? What's his decrease in gravitational PE? His increase in KE?
 
what's the equation i should use?
 
what's the conservation of energy equation i should use? thanks.
 
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[tex]\Delta {PE} + \Delta {KE} = 0[/tex]
 

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