Potential inside of chrged non-conductive sphere

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The discussion revolves around the potential inside a uniformly charged non-conductive sphere, specifically addressing the mathematical expression for the potential at a distance r from the center when r is less than the radius R of the sphere. Participants are exploring the implications of Gauss's law and the integration process involved in deriving the potential function.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the integration process needed to derive the potential, with one noting a potential mistake in limits during integration. Others clarify the definitions of variables and the correct approach to integrating the electric field to find the potential.

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The discussion has seen various attempts to clarify the integration limits and the correct formulation of the potential. One participant claims to have resolved their confusion, while others continue to question the rationale behind the integration limits, indicating a productive exploration of the topic.

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There is mention of potential confusion regarding the integration limits, particularly whether to integrate from infinity to r or from zero to r, which reflects the complexity of the problem setup and the assumptions being made about the Gaussian surface.

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Homework Statement


A charge is distributed uniformly throughout a non-conducting spherical volume of radius R. Show, that the potential at distance r from center (r<R) is given by:
V=q(3*R^2-r^2)/(8*PI*e0*R^3)

Homework Equations


From Gauss low:
E(r)=q*r/(4*PI*e0*R^3)

E(r)=-grad(V(r))

The Attempt at a Solution


After integrating I got:
V(r)=-q*R^2/(8*PI*e0*R^3)
which is in fact stupid, as it yields V=0 at r=0. So probably I integrated with wrong limits.
How to obtain correct formula?
 
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I made a small mistake in typing the formula on V that I obtained. It should be:
V(r)=-q*r^2/(8*PI*e0*R^3)
 
And R = radius of gaussian surface
r = radius of your sphere?
please be precise.
 
Never mind, I've solved it.

You have two different functions for the electric field.
If r > R, E = \frac{kQ}{r^2} where k = \frac{1}{4\pi\epsilon_0}
if r < R, E = \frac{kQr}{R^3}

so V of r < R will be the negative integral of r > R from R to infinity plus the negative integral of r < R from r to R.

V = - \int^{R}_{\infty} \frac{kQ}{r^2}dr - \int^{r}_{R} \frac{kQr}{R^3}dr

V = \frac{kR}{R} - \frac{kR}{2R^3}(r^2-R^2) = \frac{2kQR^2}{2R^3} + \frac{kQR^2}{2R^3} - \frac{kQr^2}{2R^3} = \frac{kQ(3R^2 - r^2)}{2R^3}

subbing k back in = \frac{Q(3R^2 - r^2)}{8 \pi \epsilon_0 R^3}

phew.. Hope there are no errors in that haha. I have been up for far too many consecutive hours..
 
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Thank you very much for the reply!
I have just one more question: why should I integrate from infinity to zero, not from zero to infinity?
 
Sorry again: from inf to r not from r to inf, I meant.
 
One more correction:
Why should I integrate from infinity to r not from zero to r?
I hope, now it's ok...
 
because if we integrated from zero to r, that would give us V for inside the gaussian surface as well as inside the sphere.

Sorry for the late reply I was away for sometime.
 

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