Discussion Overview
The discussion revolves around calculating the theoretical power required to pump air underwater to a specified depth, focusing on metric measurements. Participants explore the implications of pressure, flow rate, and potential efficiency of pumping systems, particularly in the context of diving without external power sources.
Discussion Character
- Exploratory
- Technical explanation
- Conceptual clarification
Main Points Raised
- One participant requests a formula for the power required to pump air underwater, indicating their calculations seem too low.
- Another participant suggests that the pumping pressure must exceed the water pressure at the desired depth, emphasizing the role of pressure and flow rate in determining power.
- A formula for power is proposed: P = p \dot{V}, where P is power, p is pumping pressure, and \dot{V} is volumetric flow rate. This formula assumes isothermal compression and neglects losses.
- A participant reflects on the feasibility of using exhaled air to assist in pumping new air underwater, considering the energy requirements and efficiency of such a system.
- Initial estimations suggest that pumping air to a diver at a depth of 5 meters could require around 6.7 watts, raising questions about the practicality of this power requirement compared to human muscle power.
Areas of Agreement / Disagreement
Participants express varying assumptions about the efficiency and practicality of pumping air underwater, with no consensus reached on the overall feasibility or exact power requirements.
Contextual Notes
Limitations include assumptions about isothermal conditions, neglect of frictional effects, and the efficiency of real systems, which remain unresolved in the discussion.
Who May Find This Useful
This discussion may be of interest to individuals involved in diving, underwater engineering, or those exploring the physics of fluid dynamics and air compression.