Practicing Cartesian Products: B x (C x A)

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The discussion revolves around the concept of Cartesian products in set theory, specifically focusing on the expression B x (C x A) where A, B, and C are defined sets.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the relationship between B x (C x A) and B x C x A, questioning whether they are equivalent. There are attempts to clarify the structure of the Cartesian product and its implications.

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The discussion has seen participants acknowledging misunderstandings regarding the equality of the expressions. Some have provided corrected representations of the Cartesian product, indicating a productive exchange of ideas.

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Participants are grappling with the definitions and properties of Cartesian products, with some confusion about notation and structure. There is an emphasis on the need for clarity in distinguishing between different forms of Cartesian products.

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Hi, everyone. I'm practicing Cartesian products and wanted to see if I was doing this correctly. Here's the problem

Let A = {x, y, z}, B = {a, b}, C = {1, 3},
Find B x (C x A) (the x denotes multiplication)

Now wouldn't B x (C x A) = B x C x A?

Then we would have:
B x (C x A) = B x C x A = {(a, 1, x), (a, 1, y), (a, 1, z), (a, 2, x), (a, 2, y), (a, 2, z),
(b, 1, x), (b, 1, y), (b, 1, z), (b, 2, x), (b, 2, y), (b, 2, z)}

Is this right?
 
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nicnicman said:
Hi, everyone. I'm practicing Cartesian products and wanted to see if I was doing this correctly. Here's the problem

Let A = {x, y, z}, B = {a, b}, C = {1, 3},
Find B x (C x A) (the x denotes multiplication)

Now wouldn't B x (C x A) = B x C x A?

No, those two aren't equal. We often do identify them, but strictly spoken, they are not equal.
 
Yeah, you're right. After a little more looking I found that I was wrong.

Anyway, here is a second crack at it:

B x (C x A) =
{(a, (1, x)), (a, (1, y)), (a, (1, z)), (a, (3, x)), (a, (3, y)), (a, (3, z))
(b, (1, x)), (b, (1, y)), (b, (1, z)), (b, (3, x)), (b, (3, y)), (b, (3, z))}

How's this?
 
That's right!
 
Thanks!
 

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