Pre Calculus online with 2nd semester Algebra 2

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The discussion revolves around the decision of whether to take Pre-Calculus online alongside 2nd semester Algebra 2, or to opt for College Algebra online with the same Algebra 2 course. Participants explore the implications of each choice on future calculus courses and the content covered in college algebra versus pre-calculus.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions their algebra proficiency and suggests that if they are comfortable with algebra, Pre-Calculus online may be a better fit, noting that Pre-Calculus is not strictly necessary for calculus.
  • Another participant shares their experience, stating that college algebra was significantly more rigorous than Algebra 2, covering topics such as conics, logarithms, exponential functions, and matrices, which were not addressed until college algebra.
  • A participant mentions that they took college algebra and a separate trigonometry class instead of pre-calculus, suggesting that this combination provided thorough preparation for calculus.
  • There is a discussion about the content typically covered in Algebra 2, with some participants indicating that certain topics like conics and logarithms should be included, while others had different experiences.
  • One participant notes that in some educational contexts, taking college algebra and trigonometry could be considered equivalent to taking pre-calculus.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the content and rigor of college algebra compared to Algebra 2, with no consensus on the best preparatory path for calculus. The discussion remains unresolved regarding which option is preferable.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight varying educational experiences and curricula, indicating that the effectiveness of either path may depend on individual school offerings and personal proficiency in algebra.

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Hi, I am wondering if it would be better to do Pre-Calculus online with the 2nd semester Algebra 2. Or take college algebra online with 2nd semester Algebra 2.

If I go the Pre-Calculus online with 2nd semester Algebra 2, my senior year I will be taking Calculus AB 1st semester and Calculus BC 2nd semester.

If I go the college algebra online with 2nd semester Algebra 2, my senior year I will be taking Pre-Calculus as a class, and Pre-Calculus online 1st semester. And then 2nd semester take Calculus AB with Pre-Calculus.
 
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How good are you at algebra? Do you find the exams easy? College algebra will be the whole of algebra, but it sounds like you already know most of that, you are finishing it now with the second half of Algebra 2. If you want to go over it again, do the college algebra, but if you don't struggle with algebra, then look at precalculus online. Just remember, precalculus is not needed for calculus, you'll learn everything you need to know in calculus. So it would be possible to do the college algebra and then go straight on to calculus. But it also depends on what your school allows.
 
Speaking from my own personal experience, college algebra was barely even comparable to algebra 2. Yes, it was still algebra, but the concepts in college algebra were far more rigorous and in depth than the material I covered in algebra 1 and 2. That may simply be due to the professor, but college algebra touched on a lot of subjects that I never covered in my algebra 1 or 2 classes. We never looked at conics, logarithms, exponential functions, or matrices until I got to college algebra.

I never took pre-calc though. I took college algebra, and a separate trigonometry class. I feel like the two separate courses made for a much more thorough preparation for calculus. I'm currently in calc 1, and there are a lot of people struggling in it. It isn't because of the calculus though, it's because of the algebra. There's a lot of algebra involved in finding derivatives and limits.

That said, if you're reasonably competent with algebraic manipulation, you should be fine either way.
 
QuantumCurt said:
We never looked at conics, logarithms, exponential functions, or matrices until I got to college algebra.
Yikes. In some schools all of that should be covered in Algebra 2. In my case, I remember learning conics, logarithms, and exponential functions in Algebra 2. We didn't get to matrices, though (and I didn't see matrices until senior year!).

QuantumCurt said:
I never took pre-calc though. I took college algebra, and a separate trigonometry class.
In the eyes of some schools, however, you did take pre-calculus.
Pre-calculus = College algebra + trigonometry
... and in some Pre-calculus courses, a little discrete math is also thrown in.
(Note: when I say "trigonometry," I really mean trigonometry and analytic geometry.)
 

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