Pre Calculus problem in need of help

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The discussion revolves around solving the equation e^ax = c * 2^bx for x using natural logarithms. Initially, two students attempted to manipulate the equation but were confused by their steps, particularly in combining terms incorrectly. After several exchanges, they clarified their approach by taking the natural logarithm of both sides, leading to the equation ax - bxln(2) = ln(c). They ultimately derived the solution x = ln(c) / (a - bln(2), feeling more confident in their final answer. The conversation highlights the importance of proper logarithmic manipulation in solving exponential equations.
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Homework Statement



Solve for X in terms of Natural Logs;
Both my friend and I (top scores in the class) are struggling with this problem.

Homework Equations


e^ax=c*2^bx

The Attempt at a Solution


We both decided to divide both sides by 2^bx which gave us
e^ax / 2^bx = C

Then I flipped the 2^bx up to the top by making the ^-bx
Then I multiplied the 2 and the e and added the ^ax and ^-bx

thus resulting in
2e^ax-bx=c

Then divide both sides by two and natural log both sides
getting

ax-bx= ln(c/2)

Factor out a x and divide both sides by a-b

x= ln(c/2) / a-b

We both suspect our answers are wrong due to the multiplying of 2 and the e, other than that we have no idea how to get the right answer.
 
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TheKracken said:

Homework Statement



Solve for X in terms of Natural Logs;
Both my friend and I (top scores in the class) are struggling with this problem.

Homework Equations


e^ax=c*2^bx

The Attempt at a Solution


We both decided to divide both sides by 2^bx which gave us
e^ax / 2^bx = C

Then I flipped the 2^bx up to the top by making the ^-bx
Then I multiplied the 2 and the e and added the ^ax and ^-bx

thus resulting in
2e^ax-bx=c

Then divide both sides by two and natural log both sides
getting

ax-bx= ln(c/2)

Factor out a x and divide both sides by a-b

x= ln(c/2) / a-b

We both suspect our answers are wrong due to the multiplying of 2 and the e, other than that we have no idea how to get the right answer.
You're right regarding the error of multiplying 2 and e .

The general way to solve an exponential equation is to take some logarithm of both sides. In this case using the natural log, ln, should work fine.
 
Trying what I believe you just said still confuses me and I am still not getting an answer. Would you possibly explain further?
 
TheKracken said:
Trying what I believe you just said still confuses me and I am still not getting an answer. Would you possibly explain further?
Show what you get when you take ln of both sides of
eax=c*2bx

(Assuming that's the equation you started with. You really should have used parentheses to set off the exponents.)
 
Alright, so my results are now looking like this...

x= (ln(2c))/(a+(1/b))

Is this now correct?
(I do not have an answer key for this)
 
TheKracken said:
Alright, so my results are now looking like this...

x= (ln(2c))/(a+(1/b))

Is this now correct?
(I do not have an answer key for this)

No.

Show some of your steps.

2 and c shouldn't combine like that at all.
 
I took the ln of both sides, then the ln(e^(ax)) went to ax=ln(c*2^(bx)) From here I put the bx in front of the ln(c*2) but now I suspect that is wrong as well. I am not sure what to do with the ln(c*2^(bx))
 
TheKracken said:
I took the ln of both sides, then the ln(e^(ax)) went to ax=ln(c*2^(bx)) From here I put the bx in front of the ln(c*2) but now I suspect that is wrong as well. I am not sure what to do with the ln(c*2^(bx))

\log(ab) = \log(a) + \log(b)
 
Right, I feel pretty stupid for that now.

Ok well, now...
ax= ln(c) + ln(2^(bx))
Bring the bx to the front and subtract to the other side.
ax-bxln(2)=ln(c)

Factor out x

x(a-bln(2))= ln(c)

divide by (a-bln(2))
x= ln(c)/(a-bln(2))

Alright...now I feel like I am getting closer to the answer, if not finally hit it.
 
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TheKracken said:
Right, I feel pretty stupid for that now.

Ok well, now...
ax= ln(c) + ln(2^(bx))
Bring the bx to the front and subtract to the other side.
ax-bxln(2)=ln(c)

Factor out x

x(a-bln(2))= ln(c)

divide by (a-bln(2))
x= ln(c)/(a-bln(2))
That's it.
TheKracken said:
Alright...now I feel like I am getting closer to the answer, if not finally hit it.
 

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