Pre Calculus problem in need of help

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around solving the equation eax = c * 2bx for x in terms of natural logarithms. Participants express confusion and uncertainty about their attempts and the correctness of their solutions.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants attempt to manipulate the equation by dividing both sides and applying logarithmic properties. They question the validity of their steps, particularly regarding the combination of terms and the application of logarithms.

Discussion Status

Several participants share their attempts and express doubts about their reasoning. Guidance has been offered regarding the use of logarithms, and there is an ongoing exploration of how to correctly apply these concepts to the problem.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the absence of an answer key, which contributes to their uncertainty about the correctness of their solutions. There is also mention of the need for clarity in the use of parentheses in the original equation.

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Homework Statement



Solve for X in terms of Natural Logs;
Both my friend and I (top scores in the class) are struggling with this problem.

Homework Equations


e^ax=c*2^bx

The Attempt at a Solution


We both decided to divide both sides by 2^bx which gave us
e^ax / 2^bx = C

Then I flipped the 2^bx up to the top by making the ^-bx
Then I multiplied the 2 and the e and added the ^ax and ^-bx

thus resulting in
2e^ax-bx=c

Then divide both sides by two and natural log both sides
getting

ax-bx= ln(c/2)

Factor out a x and divide both sides by a-b

x= ln(c/2) / a-b

We both suspect our answers are wrong due to the multiplying of 2 and the e, other than that we have no idea how to get the right answer.
 
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TheKracken said:

Homework Statement



Solve for X in terms of Natural Logs;
Both my friend and I (top scores in the class) are struggling with this problem.

Homework Equations


e^ax=c*2^bx

The Attempt at a Solution


We both decided to divide both sides by 2^bx which gave us
e^ax / 2^bx = C

Then I flipped the 2^bx up to the top by making the ^-bx
Then I multiplied the 2 and the e and added the ^ax and ^-bx

thus resulting in
2e^ax-bx=c

Then divide both sides by two and natural log both sides
getting

ax-bx= ln(c/2)

Factor out a x and divide both sides by a-b

x= ln(c/2) / a-b

We both suspect our answers are wrong due to the multiplying of 2 and the e, other than that we have no idea how to get the right answer.
You're right regarding the error of multiplying 2 and e .

The general way to solve an exponential equation is to take some logarithm of both sides. In this case using the natural log, ln, should work fine.
 
Trying what I believe you just said still confuses me and I am still not getting an answer. Would you possibly explain further?
 
TheKracken said:
Trying what I believe you just said still confuses me and I am still not getting an answer. Would you possibly explain further?
Show what you get when you take ln of both sides of
eax=c*2bx

(Assuming that's the equation you started with. You really should have used parentheses to set off the exponents.)
 
Alright, so my results are now looking like this...

x= (ln(2c))/(a+(1/b))

Is this now correct?
(I do not have an answer key for this)
 
TheKracken said:
Alright, so my results are now looking like this...

x= (ln(2c))/(a+(1/b))

Is this now correct?
(I do not have an answer key for this)

No.

Show some of your steps.

2 and c shouldn't combine like that at all.
 
I took the ln of both sides, then the ln(e^(ax)) went to ax=ln(c*2^(bx)) From here I put the bx in front of the ln(c*2) but now I suspect that is wrong as well. I am not sure what to do with the ln(c*2^(bx))
 
TheKracken said:
I took the ln of both sides, then the ln(e^(ax)) went to ax=ln(c*2^(bx)) From here I put the bx in front of the ln(c*2) but now I suspect that is wrong as well. I am not sure what to do with the ln(c*2^(bx))

\log(ab) = \log(a) + \log(b)
 
Right, I feel pretty stupid for that now.

Ok well, now...
ax= ln(c) + ln(2^(bx))
Bring the bx to the front and subtract to the other side.
ax-bxln(2)=ln(c)

Factor out x

x(a-bln(2))= ln(c)

divide by (a-bln(2))
x= ln(c)/(a-bln(2))

Alright...now I feel like I am getting closer to the answer, if not finally hit it.
 
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TheKracken said:
Right, I feel pretty stupid for that now.

Ok well, now...
ax= ln(c) + ln(2^(bx))
Bring the bx to the front and subtract to the other side.
ax-bxln(2)=ln(c)

Factor out x

x(a-bln(2))= ln(c)

divide by (a-bln(2))
x= ln(c)/(a-bln(2))
That's it.
TheKracken said:
Alright...now I feel like I am getting closer to the answer, if not finally hit it.
 

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