Precise intuition about limits and infinitesimals

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the understanding of limits and infinitesimals, exploring both historical perspectives and formal mathematical concepts. Participants express interest in how to visualize and intuitively grasp these ideas, as well as seeking resources for deeper exploration.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Historical

Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks to understand the historical development of limits and infinitesimals beyond typical sources like Wikipedia, expressing a desire for a deeper intuitive grasp of these concepts.
  • Another participant recommends a series of videos by 3blue1brown titled "Essence of Calculus," which visually explains the notions behind limits.
  • A different participant mentions a book by Jean Dieudonné that covers the mathematical history from 1700 to 1900, suggesting it as a valuable resource, albeit lacking an English version.
  • One participant introduces the concept of non-standard analysis as a rigorous approach to infinitesimals, referencing a book by Robinson on the subject.
  • A participant emphasizes that understanding the formal concept of limits requires knowledge of modern mathematical logic and definitions, contrasting this with the historical understanding of limits.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various viewpoints on how to approach the understanding of limits and infinitesimals, with no consensus on a singular method or resource. The discussion reflects a mix of historical and formal perspectives without resolving the best approach to learning these concepts.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the distinction between formal mathematical understanding and historical context, suggesting that each serves different educational purposes. There is an acknowledgment that a gentle, historical approach to learning may be time-consuming and assumes prior knowledge of modern formalism.

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I've understood the formal definition of limits and its various applications. However, I'm trying to dive more into the history of how the concept of limits were conceived (more than what Wikipedia tends to cover), and how to formally understand and visualise infinitesimals.

For example, I know that `0.999... = 1`, where both the LHS and RHS are the same numbers with different representations (there's a proof that uses limits). How can I formally understand this? What branch of mathematics can I start exploring, and what are the best resources to do it?

Also, what are some good resources on the history of limits and the technical understanding of something "tending to infinity but not infinity?"

On my background: I've done math heavily in my undergraduate studies and calculus is not a problem. However, I'm trying to get deep into making things that I've learned intuitive, and not just resort to manipulating symbols without complete understanding.

Please let me know if my question is a bit vague, I'll be happy to add more details.
 
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There is an excellent book from Jean Dieudonné about the mathematical history between 1700 and 1900. The numbers are from its title, the content isn't as strict at its borders. Unfortunately I don't know of an English version, but it's really a good source, and as I find, exciting.
 
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It is possible to make infinitesimals rigorous. This is called "non-standard analysis", and is treated in the book "Non standard analysis" by Robinson.
 
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Sleek said:
How can I formally understand this? What branch of mathematics can I start exploring, and what are the best resources to do it?
Also, what are some good resources on the history of limits and the technical understanding of something "tending to infinity but not infinity?"

A formal and technical understanding of limits is a different goal than understanding the early history of these concepts. The early history of the concept of limits is primarily useful in intuitively understanding limits. To understand the formal concept of limits, you need to understand the "game" of modern mathematics. This involves understanding the use of formal logic and logical quantifiers - and the outlook that definitions mean what they say as opposed to being descriptions of things that already exist.

It would be nice if mathematical topics could be studied in a gentle way, starting from their historic roots and proceeding to modern treatments. However, this is a time consuming way to learn things and most expositions that take this approach assume you already appreciate modern mathematical formalism.
 
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