Predicted Meson Masses: Working Out the Spins

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The discussion revolves around predicting meson masses and understanding the calculation of spins associated with quarks. The original poster is attempting to apply a specific equation related to meson mass but is uncertain about how to determine the spins of the quarks involved.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between quark spins and the equations for meson mass. Questions arise about the definitions of variables in the equations and how to apply them to specific examples, such as the spins of up and down quarks.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided clarifications regarding quark spins and their contributions to the overall spin calculations. However, there remains a lack of consensus on how to fully integrate these concepts into the mass predictions, and further examples are requested to aid understanding.

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There is an ongoing inquiry into the meaning of the variable A in the equations, indicating a potential gap in the original poster's understanding of the problem context.

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Homework Statement


I'm trying to determine the predicted meson masses but am having a little trouble with working out the spins...


Homework Equations


[tex]m=(q\overline{q})=m_{1}+m_{2}+A\frac{S_{1} \bullet S_{2}}{m_{1}m_{2}}[/tex]


The Attempt at a Solution


I understand that using a quark up and down mass of 310MeV/c^2 and an A value of 0.06GeV^3 I can simply sub these values into the equation, but how do I determine the spin?

I found an equation:
[tex]S_{1}\bulletS_{2}=0.5[S(S+1)-S_{1}(S_{1}+1)-S_{2}(S_{2}+1)][/tex]
but I'm a bit confused about how the quark spins relate to the above formula...

Thanks!
 
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A quark has spin s=1/2. If we assume the quarks have a definite z-component of spin (where z is an arbitrary direction we choose), then each can have either sz=+1/2 or
sz=-1/2. The two different quarks can be relatively aligned or anti-aligned, so the dot product s1.s2 gives + or - contribution.
 
Thanks for that! But where does the second equation come into it? What are S, S1 and S2? Is it possible to demonstrate with an example somehow please? Like an up quark (spin +1/2) and a down quark (spin -1/2) how these equations work?
 
Okay, I understand that for spin 0:
[tex]M=m_{1}+m_{2}-\frac{3A}{4m_{1}m_{2}}[/tex]
and for spin 1:
[tex]M=m_{1}+m_{2}+\frac{A}{4m_{1}m_{2}}[/tex]

I understand that the [tex]\pi[/tex] for example has spin 0 and the [tex]\rho[/tex] has spin 1... I know that they both have an up and an antiup quark (or a down and an antidown quark) but I still don't understand how the calculation of spin works...
 
what does A stands for?
 

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