Predicting the Likelihood of World War 3: A Scientific Perspective

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The discussion revolves around predictions regarding the onset of a potential World War 3, exploring various hypotheses, causes, and the implications of such a conflict. Participants share their thoughts on specific dates, the nature of warfare, and the political landscape that could lead to a global conflict.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest specific dates for the next world war, ranging from 2010-2013 to 2035, with varying degrees of seriousness.
  • One participant references Nostradamus's predictions about a significant war, indicating a belief in prophetic insights.
  • There are humorous and absurd predictions, such as a Chinese ambassador being swallowed by a hippo, which some participants challenge as nonsensical.
  • Concerns are raised about the role of propaganda and influential individuals in inciting conflict, with suggestions that targeted actions against such figures might prevent a world war.
  • Discussions touch on the definition of a "world war," with some arguing that conflicts in the Middle East may not qualify as such, while others assert that they could have global implications.
  • Participants express skepticism about the likelihood of a world war occurring under current political conditions, suggesting that regional conflicts are more probable.
  • There is a sentiment that discussions about war often lack a true understanding of its consequences, with calls for proactive measures to prevent future conflicts.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on when or if a world war will occur, with multiple competing views on the causes and implications of such a conflict. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the definitions and conditions that would constitute a world war.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include varying definitions of what constitutes a world war, differing opinions on the political landscape, and the speculative nature of predictions made by participants.

  • #31
loop quantum gravity said:
perhaps you have forgotten of usa invasion to iraq, with britain and other allies.
if that isn't considered an occasion for a world war, i really don't know what is.

Whoa, tell that to the leftwingers around here. Supposedly we went in alone... so i don't know what you're talking about :P
 
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  • #32
cronxeh said:
I was wondering about something. If there was an individual or a group of individuals who would use propaganda and other lowtech techniques to subdue large masses into nationalism and destabilize the world peace, won't it be easier to simple assassinate each of those individuals, rather than actually wage a WW3 whereas more people would die?

The problem is of course that that, by itself, is a fascist technique !

However, when you say:
individual or a group of individuals who would use propaganda and other lowtech techniques to subdue large masses into nationalism and destabilize the world peace

doesn't someone in particular come to mind ?
 
  • #33
Astronuc said:
Not while I am alive. :cool:
I don't think a world war is possible in the forseeable future (50-100 years). The global geopolitical state is far too stable for one to happen.
 
  • #34
loop quantum gravity said:
perhaps you have forgotten of usa invasion to iraq, with britain and other allies.
if that isn't considered an occasion for a world war, i really don't know what is.
A world war has major world powers on both sides of the fight.
 
  • #35
Cronxeh said:
I was wondering about something. If there was an individual or a group of individuals who would use propaganda and other lowtech techniques to subdue large masses into nationalism and destabilize the world peace, won't it be easier to simple assassinate each of those individuals, rather than actually wage a WW3 whereas more people would die?
I almost forgot about this. Refer to Hassan-i-Sabbah.
 
  • #36
Gotta finish WW Zero first --- started around 700 AD, and still going.
 
  • #37
27th November 2008, bring your own gun.
 
  • #38
loseyourname said:
It does seem a little disingenuous, or at least Eurocentric, to call WWI a 'world' war, but at least WWII took place in both hemispheres and on three continents (four if you count Pearl Harbor and Midway as part of North America). (snip)

Aleutians, California, Pac. NW balloon bombs, Darwin --- let's make it five continents.
 
  • #39
yesterday is when it will happen
 
  • #40
loseyourname said:
It does seem a little disingenuous, or at least Eurocentric, to call WWI a 'world' war,...

Countries involved in WWI

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/4f/WWI-re.png/800px-WWI-re.png

Fighting took place all over the European Empires, including Africa, Asia en Oceania. There was even the threat of Mexico joining the war as a German ally, which was one of the reasons that Wilson asked congress to declare war (as was still done it those times :rolleyes: )
 
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  • #41
russ_watters said:
A world war has major world powers on both sides of the fight.

If that is the case, then it will start when we invade Iran. China and Russia have both thrown in their lot with the Iranians, and I think it is likely they would side with them in an armed conflict.

Is that the actual definition of a world war? I don't have my webster's on hand.

I'd make the case it has already begun. We are fighting thousands of individuals scattered world wide who do not fight under a national banner, rather one of radical islam. These so called terrorists have carried out attacks on at least four continents in multiple nations (USA,UK, Canada (Thwarted), Spain, Germany (thwarted), Indonesia, Australia, Israel).

These attacks have roused the attention of many nations, as evidenced by the mutlinational force that invaded iraq.

Granted this war is different than any other we have fought before, but I think this is going to be the trend for the indefinite future. The days of large standing armies going to war in a battlefield are over. Small skirmishes in urban areas are going to be the norm.

In my mind it is clear, we are living in world war 3 but nobody has dared call it that yet.
 
  • #42
What do you mean by WW0? My history is hopeless...
 
  • #43
future isn't looking so bright either
 
  • #44
Dimitri Terryn said:
Countries involved in WWI

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/4f/WWI-re.png/800px-WWI-re.png

Fighting took place all over the European Empires, including Africa, Asia en Oceania. There was even the threat of Mexico joining the war as a German ally, which was one of the reasons that Wilson asked congress to declare war (as was still done it those times :rolleyes: )
This map is not clear. Which colours denote the involved countries ? If hope it's not the orange ones because that would be incomplete. Here is a better list : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_I

marlon
 
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  • #45
A while ago I posted "never"...

I am changing that statement now.

Novermber 17, 2009
 
  • #46
History may well say that it started March 19, 2003.
 
  • #47
Integral said:
History may well say that it started March 19, 2003.
That's around the time that we first dropped our bombs on Baghdad... :rolleyes:
 
  • #48
Yep, The Iraq war is far from over and may well get MUCH worse before it gets any better.. Georgie boy has opened a real can of worms, now .. can he get us out??
 
  • #49
Integral said:
Yep, The Iraq war is far from over and may well get MUCH worse before it gets any better.. Georgie boy has opened a real can of worms, now .. can he get us out??

We already know his exit strategy: He leaves office in Jan, 2009.
 
  • #50
With any luck his next term will be 5-10.
 

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