Preserving Essential Features in Fourier Series Approximations

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the implications of truncating Fourier series expansions, specifically whether cutting off terms for |n|>N can preserve the essential features of a function's graph. The context includes theoretical considerations and applications in quantum mechanics.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether truncating a Fourier series by cutting off terms for |n|>N can still preserve the essential features of the function's graph, suggesting that if those terms contribute very little, a good approximation may be possible.
  • Another participant notes that while it is possible for the terms at the ends of the series to be insignificant, this is not universally true and depends on the specific function being transformed.
  • A participant mentions that well-behaved functions typically do not have significant energy at infinite frequencies, implying that high-frequency information can often be discarded without major loss.
  • One participant introduces a mathematical condition related to Fourier coefficients, suggesting that under certain conditions, the coefficients approach zero as n approaches infinity, which may be relevant to the original question.
  • There is a discussion about specific functions, such as Gaussian functions, and whether the properties of these functions support the idea that truncating the series is acceptable.
  • Another participant expresses concern about the implications of changing an infinite limit integral into a summation with a finite limit N, indicating a potential issue with the approach.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the significance of high-frequency terms in Fourier series. While some suggest that these terms can often be ignored, others caution that this is not a blanket rule and depends on the function in question. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the generality of these claims.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the dependence on the specific properties of the functions being discussed, as well as the implications of truncating an infinite series versus evaluating an integral.

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I hope that this is the appropriate forum to ask something about Fourier series.
My question is a little intuitive.Say I expand a function in Fourier series with
n=-∞ to n=∞.The graph of the function is available.

Now suppose,I cut off some terms for which |n|>N and expand the function.It will not be a Fourier series any more.But I am not worried about that.All I want to know whether this process is capable to preserve the essential feature of the graph.If terms like that (|n|>N) contribute very small to the actual series,then what I am telling is possible with a good approximation.Please let me know...

I encountered this problem in deriving the Parsevals formula in a Quantum Mechanics book where they have folowed the procedure in "approximation in the mean".
 
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It's possible that the terms on the ends of the series are insigificant and can be ignored, but this is not always the case. It depends upon the function that is being transformed.

In general, though, well-behaved functions do not contain significant energy out to infinite frequencies, and very high frequency information can thus be discarded.

- Warren
 
Say your function [itex]f[/itex] is in [itex]C^k[/itex]. Let [itex]f_n[/itex] denote the n-th Fourier coefficient. Then one can prove that [itex]n^k f_n\rightarrow 0[/itex] as [itex]n\rightarrow \infty[/itex].
Is that enough for your problem?
 
to nicktacik:
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---means?

to chroot:
In general, though, well-behaved functions do not contain significant energy out to infinite frequencies, and very high frequency information can thus be discarded.
Say I am talking about a pulse like a Gaussian (momentum representation of wave function).Now take its F.T. which is also a Gaussian(wave function).Then I can assume what you say...right?

to cliowa,perhaps no.Because I am cutting an infinite limit integral into a summation with limit N.
 

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