Pressure Distribution on Split Block: Does Total Pressure Change on Ground?

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The problem involves a block exerting pressure on the ground and questions whether splitting the block vertically into two halves affects the total pressure on the ground. The subject area relates to pressure distribution and the principles of force and area in physics.

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  • Participants explore the relationship between weight, area, and pressure when the block is split, questioning whether to treat the halves as separate entities or as a whole. Some express confusion about how pressure is calculated in this context.

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The discussion is ongoing, with various interpretations being explored. Some participants suggest that the pressure remains the same, while others argue that it doubles. There is a recognition of the need to clarify the meaning of "total pressure" and how it applies to separate objects.

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Participants are grappling with the definitions of pressure and how it applies to multiple objects in contact with a surface. The term "total pressure" is noted as potentially misleading in this context.

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Homework Statement



A block exerts a pressure on the ground. If the block is split vertically into two halves does the total pressure on the ground increase, decrease or remain the same?

Homework Equations



Pressure = Force/Area

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I think that it doubles but I am not sure. I am confused because the total area of contact remains the same and the total weight remains the same. Can you work out the total pressure using total pressure = total force/total area once they are split up or do you have to work them out individually?

 
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If you just analyse one of the halves, what happens to the weight? What happens to the area? As a consequence, what happens to the pressure? (Force/area)
 
Each half will have half the weight, so half the force and half the area and so the pressure is equal to that of the whole block. So I think I am right to say that by splitting it up vertically even though they might lie side by side touching each other, the overall pressure on the ground still doubles compared to when the block was whole. In short once split you have to work them separately and not continue treating them as one whole object.
 
But having a practical look at the problem defies the abovementioned logic. Take something in your hand. Feel the pressure it exerts. Now cut it in half the pressure will remain same
 
nilic1 said:
So I think I am right to say that by splitting it up vertically even though they might lie side by side touching each other, the overall pressure on the ground still doubles compared to when the block was whole. In short once split you have to work them separately and not continue treating them as one whole object.
No, this is wrong. Pressure is not a property you add up from different parts. It is a quantity you compute for each part of a surface.
 
nilic1 said:
the overall pressure on the ground still doubles
You just proved the pressure stays the same. It seems to me that you are sometimes confusing pressure with force, e.g. thinking that two lots of the same pressure means double the pressure. The confusion may come partly from the use of the expression "total pressure" in the question. That suggests adding pressures, but you can only add pressures exerted on the same patch of surface. Two blocks placed side by side cannot be said to exert a total pressure. An average pressure, perhaps.
Faiq said:
Take something in your hand. Feel the pressure it exerts.
That's not so easy. You would be too aware of the total weight to be able to judge in terms of pressures.
 
Consider cutting the block into 1,000,000 bits. Do you think the pressure will be 1,000,000 times greater?
 
So should the answer be ... total pressure acting remains the same?
 
nilic1 said:
So should the answer be ... total pressure acting remains the same?
I would say the pressure remains the same. As I wrote, I don't think "total pressure" means anything in this context. It would be meaningful if we were discussing adding pressures onto the same region.
 
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