Is α a Primitive Element Modulo p Given α^q ≡ -1 mod p?

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The discussion revolves around the conditions under which an element α is considered a primitive element modulo a prime p, particularly in the context of the relationship between α^q and -1 modulo p and q, where p and q are odd primes with p=2q+1.

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  • Homework-related, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes that α is a primitive element modulo p if and only if α^q ≡ -1 mod q, given that α ∈ Z_p^* and α ≢ ±1 mod p.
  • Another participant questions whether the original post is a homework problem, suggesting that it may require further clarification.
  • A participant discusses the implications of q being a "Sophie Germain Prime" and references Fermat's Little Theorem, indicating that if α is a primitive root, then all its powers modulo p must differ, leading to the p-1 residue system.
  • One participant attempts to clarify the conditions under which α^((p-1)/2) ≡ -1 mod p, arguing that if it were 1, α would not generate all elements.
  • A later reply points out a potential error in the original claim, suggesting that the correct statement should be α^q ≡ -1 mod p, referencing Fermat's Little Theorem for primes.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the conditions for α being a primitive element, with some supporting the original claim and others questioning its accuracy. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the exact conditions and implications.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the assumptions made about the definitions of primitive elements and the application of Fermat's Little Theorem. The discussion also reflects uncertainty about the implications of the relationships between α, p, and q.

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Suppose that p and q are odd primes and p=2q+1. Suppose that
α∈ Z_p^*,α≢±1 mod p.

Prove that α is primitive element modulo p if and only if α^q≡-1 mod q.
 
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That sounds like a homework problem?? Do you think?
 
I don't get any response on this. But since q is a "Sofie Germain Prime," then q=(p-1)/2.

By Fermat's Little Theorem z^(p-1) ==1 Mod p. IF a number is a primitive root--which I take is what he means here- no extensions are mentioned; then all its powers Modulo p must differ, giving us the p-1 residue system. ;

To do this, a^(p-1)/2 ==-1 Mod p. Since if it was 1, then a would not generate all the elements.
 
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robert Ihnot said:
I don't get any response on this. But since q is a "Sofie Germain Prime," then q=(p-1)/2.

By Fermat's Little Theorem z^(p-1) ==1 Mod p. IF a number is a primitive root--which I take is what he means here- no extensions are mentioned; then all its powers Modulo p must differ, giving us the p-1 residue system. ;

To do this, a^(p-1)/2 ==-1 Mod p. Since if it was 1, then a would not generate all the elements.

thanks a lot i really appreciate your help
 
hope2009: thanks a lot i really appreciate your help

Happy to hear you are satisifed. However, there is an error I see now:

Prove that α is primitive element modulo p if and only if α^q≡-1 mod q.

You mean a^q \equiv -1 \bmod p Since by Fermat's little theorem for a prime, a^q \equiv a \bmod q
 
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