Principles of Mathematical Analysis by Rudin

Click For Summary

Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the suitability of "Principles of Mathematical Analysis" by Rudin for students at different stages of their mathematical education. Participants explore whether this text can be effectively utilized before taking a calculus course and the prerequisites necessary for understanding its content.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that Rudin could be used before a calculus course, but caution that it may be too difficult and lack motivation for those without prior knowledge.
  • Others argue that familiarity with calculus and proofs, as well as a certain level of mathematical maturity, are essential to tackle Rudin effectively.
  • A participant questions the definition of "mathematical maturity," leading to a response that it involves comfort with abstract mathematical concepts, which may not be present without prior calculus experience.
  • It is mentioned that Rudin is better suited for readers who have already been introduced to real analysis, implying that introductory texts may be more appropriate for those without a calculus background.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the prerequisites for studying Rudin, with some emphasizing the necessity of calculus and mathematical maturity, while others believe it could be approached earlier, albeit with challenges.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the subjective nature of "mathematical maturity" and the varying definitions of readiness for advanced mathematical texts, which depend on individual experiences and prior exposure to mathematical concepts.

Menomena
Messages
5
Reaction score
0
I am curious as to where this book falls in the hierarchy of mathematical education.

Could it be used effectively before a calculus course? Is calculus necessary before analysis?
 
Physics news on Phys.org
Well, you could use it before a calculus course. But you'll find it much too difficult and without motivation.

To tackle Rudin, one needs to know calculus and one needs to be very familiar with proofs. Furthermore, some mathematical maturity is needed.

And even then, Rudin is still hard.
 
micromass said:
To tackle Rudin, one needs to know calculus and one needs to be very familiar with proofs. Furthermore, some mathematical maturity is needed.

And even then, Rudin is still hard.


I know its subjective, but what is the definition of "mathematical maturity"?
 
Menomena said:
I know its subjective, but what is the definition of "mathematical maturity"?

Comfort with abstract mathematical concepts. In general, if you haven't taken calculus yet, then you don't have any (because you've never even encountered abstraction in mathematics). Rudin is something you read after you've already been introduced to real analysis; you are not ready. There are a few good introductory analysis texts (e.g. Elementary Analysis by Ross, which is quite good), but some of the motivation may be lacking if you haven't studied calculus (which isn't to say that you couldn't do it, just that you may not understand the importance of the some of the topics quite yet).
 
Last edited:

Similar threads

  • · Replies 15 ·
Replies
15
Views
2K
  • · Replies 20 ·
Replies
20
Views
4K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
4K
  • · Replies 13 ·
Replies
13
Views
5K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
5K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 9 ·
Replies
9
Views
3K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
5K
  • · Replies 9 ·
Replies
9
Views
6K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
2K