Private sector research, undergraduate physics

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the prospects of finding private sector research opportunities for individuals with undergraduate degrees in physics and computer science. Participants explore the viability of such positions, the potential for graduate school applications, and the implications of citizenship on job availability.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses concern about the financial viability of graduate school and seeks private sector job opportunities suitable for someone with an undergraduate degree.
  • Clarification is sought regarding whether the participant has double majored in physics and computer science, and whether they are open to jobs in both fields.
  • The participant confirms they have dual American and Canadian citizenship and expresses a preference for jobs with a research component that could support graduate school applications.
  • Another participant suggests starting with resources from the American Physical Society (APS) to explore employment options for physics graduates.
  • It is noted that typical entry-level positions for physics graduates may involve working as research assistants or technicians, often under the supervision of PhD holders, with the possibility of mundane tasks.
  • The potential benefits of gaining practical experience before pursuing graduate studies are discussed, including the possibility of finding a long-term position that may alter the need for further education.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the need to explore private sector opportunities, but there are differing views on the nature of available positions and the implications of pursuing graduate studies versus immediate employment.

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Limitations include the dependence on individual circumstances such as prior research experience and the specific job market conditions in different regions.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals considering careers in physics or computer science, particularly those with undergraduate degrees seeking employment in the private sector or contemplating graduate studies.

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Hello, I'm about to graduate with undergraduate degrees in physics and computer science. I'm considering applying to graduate school because I want to do physics research, but I also need a decent job at the moment (I don't believe that graduate students get paid more than a survival wage). Is there anything remotely like that in the private sector for someone with just an undergraduate degree?

EDIT: I live on the North American continent but am willing to relocate anywhere. Anywhere.
 
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HamiltOnion said:
Hello, I'm about to graduate with undergraduate degrees in physics and computer science. I'm considering applying to graduate school because I want to do physics research, but I also need a decent job at the moment (I don't believe that graduate students get paid more than a survival wage). Is there anything remotely like that in the private sector for someone with just an undergraduate degree?

EDIT: I live on the North American continent but am willing to relocate anywhere. Anywhere.
<<Emphasis added.>>

* Just to clarify: Did you double major? That is, you're graduating with enough credits in physics to earn a bachelor's in physics and enough credits in computer science to earn a bachelor's in computer science?

* If so, are you interested only in a "physics job"? What about a "computer science" job?

* OK, you live on the North American continent. But what is your citizenship? That will affect the options available to you.
 
CrysPhys said:
<<Emphasis added.>>

* Just to clarify: Did you double major? That is, you're graduating with enough credits in physics to earn a bachelor's in physics and enough credits in computer science to earn a bachelor's in computer science?

* If so, are you interested only in a "physics job"? What about a "computer science" job?

* OK, you live on the North American continent. But what is your citizenship? That will affect the options available to you.
Thanks for responding.

* I have two separate majors. My physics major came second, after I fully graduated with my computer science major.

* I absolutely don't mind taking a "computer science job". I quite like programming. I would definitely prefer to have a job that had a novel research component. It would also be nice (though not necessary) if it was something that I could present for grad school application.

* I have dual American and Canadian citizenship.
 
HamiltOnion said:
Thanks for responding.

* I have two separate majors. My physics major came second, after I fully graduated with my computer science major.

* I absolutely don't mind taking a "computer science job". I quite like programming. I would definitely prefer to have a job that had a novel research component. It would also be nice (though not necessary) if it was something that I could present for grad school application.

* I have dual American and Canadian citizenship.
OK. That helps.

* Start with the helpful information on the American Physical Society (APS) website: https://aps.org/. Click on the tab, "Careers in Physics". Explore the various categories and links for info on employment for people with bachelor's in physics.

* In particular, here's a listing originally posted Aug 2019 of US companies who hired people with bachelor's in physics: https://www.aip.org/statistics/whos-hiring-physics-bachelors.

* Typically (unless you've had extensive undergrad research or internship experience), you will be hired as a research assistant or technician (usual caveat: exceptions apply). E.g., the lead or principal investigator will likely have a PhD, and he will partition specific tasks or assignments to research assistants. Some of these tasks or assignments will likely be mundane. But if your intent is to go to grad school (say, within two years or so?), (a) it won't be too long a stint, (b) you'll get practical experience, and (c) you'll likely get a stronger motivation for grad school. [Or, you could find a slot that you like and that has long-term growth potential, and decide that grad school is not needed.]
 
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