Private solution to a polynomial differential equation

In summary, the polynomial equation and its private solution is:$$(1)~~ay''+by'+cy=f(x)=kx^n,~~y=A_0x^n+A_1x^{n-1}+...+A$$If i, for example, take ##f(x)=kx^3## i get, after substituting into (1), an expression like ##Ax^3+Bx^2+Cx+D## , but that doesn't equal ##kx^3##Please show your working.The general solution of ay'' + by' + cy = ky is Ae
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Karol
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The polynomial equation and it's private solution:
$$(1)~~ay''+by'+cy=f(x)=kx^n,~~y=A_0x^n+A_1x^{n-1}+...+A$$
If i, for example, take ##f(x)=kx^3## i get, after substituting into (1), an expression like ##Ax^3+Bx^2+Cx+D## , but that doesn't equal ##kx^3##
 
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Please show your working.
 
  • #3
The general solution of [tex]
ay'' + by' + cy = ky[/tex] is [itex]Ae^{r_1x} + Be^{r_2x}[/itex] where [itex]r_1 \neq r_2[/itex] are the roots of [itex]ar^2 + br + (c - k) = 0[/itex]. If the roots are equal then the general solution is instead [itex]Ae^{r_1x} + Bxe^{r_1x}[/itex].

You can therefore obtain [itex]y(x) = x[/itex] as a solution by taking [itex]b = 0[/itex] and [itex]k = c[/itex].
 
  • #4
pasmith said:
The general solution of [tex]
ay'' + by' + cy = ky[/tex] is [itex]Ae^{r_1x} + Be^{r_2x}[/itex] where [itex]r_1 \neq r_2[/itex] are the roots of [itex]ar^2 + br + (c - k) = 0[/itex]. If the roots are equal then the general solution is instead [itex]Ae^{r_1x} + Bxe^{r_1x}[/itex].

You can therefore obtain [itex]y(x) = x[/itex] as a solution by taking [itex]b = 0[/itex] and [itex]k = c[/itex].
But that is that the DE under consideration in post #1?

Compare:
##ay'' + by' + cy = ky## with
##ay'' + by' + cy = kx^3## ...
 
  • #5
Simon Bridge said:
Please show your working.
$$y=A_0x^3+A_1x^2+A_2x+A,~~y'=3A_0x^2+2A_1x+A_2,~~y''=6A_0x+2A_1$$
$$ay''+by'+cy=6aA_0x+2aA_1+3bA_0x_2+6bA_1x+bA_2+cA_1x^2+cA_2x+cA=(cA_0)x^3+(3bA_0+cA_1)x^2+(6aA_0+6bA_1+cA_2)x+(2aA_1+bA_2+cA)$$
Is there a phrase about a polynomial with many members to equal only one with the highest power?
 
  • #6
OK ... is that as far as you got?
You need an ##=kx^3## in there someplace?
Check the algebra on the others too ... then solve for the unknown coefficients.
(Probably easier to write the coefficients as A,B,C,D like you did in post #1)
 
  • #7
Simon Bridge said:
You need an =##kx^3## in there someplace?
$$(cA_0)x^3+(3bA_0+cA_1)x^2+(6aA_0+6bA_1+cA_2)x+(2aA_1+bA_2+cA)=kx^3$$
Simon Bridge said:
Check the algebra on the others too ... then solve for the unknown coefficients.
I
$$\left\{ \begin{array}{l} cA_0=k \\ 3bA_0+cA_1=0 \\ 6aA_0+6bA_1+cA_2=0 \\ 2aA_1+bA_2+cA=0 \end{array}\right.$$
$$\rightarrow~~A_0=\frac{k}{c},~~A_1=-\frac{3bk}{c^2},~~A_2=\left( \frac{3b_2c-a}{c^3} \right)6k,~~A=\frac{6abk}{c^3}-\left( \frac{3b_2c-a}{c^3} \right)6bk$$
Is that what you meant?
 
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That's the idea... test for a=b=c=d=k=1 (say).
 
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Thank you pasmith and Simon
 

1. What is a private solution to a polynomial differential equation?

A private solution to a polynomial differential equation is a specific solution that satisfies the given differential equation, but may not be applicable to other similar equations. It is often found by using initial conditions or specific values for the coefficients of the polynomial.

2. How is a private solution different from a general solution?

A general solution to a polynomial differential equation is an equation that satisfies the given differential equation for all possible values of the coefficients and initial conditions. A private solution, on the other hand, only satisfies the equation for specific values of the coefficients or initial conditions.

3. Can a private solution be used to solve other similar differential equations?

No, a private solution is specific to the given differential equation and cannot be used to solve other similar equations. To find solutions for other equations, new initial conditions or coefficients must be used.

4. What are some methods for finding a private solution?

Some methods for finding a private solution to a polynomial differential equation include using initial conditions, using specific values for the coefficients, and using separation of variables.

5. Why is finding a private solution important?

Finding a private solution can help us to understand the behavior of a specific system or phenomenon described by the differential equation. It can also be used to predict future behavior or make comparisons with other systems that have similar initial conditions or coefficients.

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