Probability of Sharpshooter Missing After 3 Shots

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The discussion centers around calculating the probability that an expert sharpshooter, who misses a target 10 percent of the time, will miss for the first time after the third shot. The scope includes probability theory and mathematical reasoning related to sequences of events.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes that the probability can be calculated as 0.9^3 * 0.1, interpreting "after" as meaning the first miss occurs immediately after the third shot.
  • Another participant suggests examining the sample space to understand the possible outcomes better.
  • There is a clarification about the interpretation of "after," questioning whether it means immediately after or if it includes scenarios where there are several hits before the first miss.
  • If "after" means immediately after, one participant agrees with the initial calculation. However, if it includes any number of hits before the first miss, they suggest a more complex calculation involving a geometric series.
  • A later reply corrects a typographical error regarding the probability value, stating it should be 0.1 instead of 0.01 in the calculations.
  • Another participant notes that if considering the broader interpretation of "after," the event simplifies to just calculating the probability of hitting the target three times in a row, which is (0.9)^3.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing interpretations of the term "after," leading to multiple competing views on how to approach the probability calculation. The discussion remains unresolved regarding which interpretation is correct.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the importance of defining the term "after" in the context of the problem, which affects the mathematical approach to the solution. There are also corrections regarding the probability values used in calculations.

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An expert sharpshooter misses a target 10 percent of the time.

I have a question
"What is the probability that the fi rst miss comes after the 3rd shot?"

Is this as simple as 0.9^3 * 0.1?
 
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Look at the sample space :

{ HHHM, HHHHM,...}
 
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Yep, the key word is "after".
 
The question is "does 'after'" mean "immediately after" or would five hits and then a miss be "the first miss is after the first three shots".

If you mean the first, then, yes, (.9)^3(.01) is correct.

If the second, then you need to expand that to larger numbers of initial hits:
(.9)^3(.01)+ (.9)^4(.01)+ (.9)^5(.01)+...

You might recognize that as part of a geometric sequence and so find a simple formula for sum.
 
HallsofIvy said:
The question is "does 'after'" mean "immediately after" or would five hits and then a miss be "the first miss is after the first three shots".

If you mean the first, then, yes, (.9)^3(.01) is correct.

If the second, then you need to expand that to larger numbers of initial hits:
(.9)^3(.01)+ (.9)^4(.01)+ (.9)^5(.01)+...

You might recognize that as part of a geometric sequence and so find a simple formula for sum.

Not 0.01 but 0.1 in all cases.:)

It is interesting to check, if we consider the 'after case' (not immediately after) then the asked event is nothing but "3 hits in first 3 shots" (whatever happens later does not matter). Therefore the answer will be (0.9)^3.
 
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