MHB Problem about Rodrigues' formula and Legendre polynomials

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The discussion centers on proving the integral of the product of Legendre polynomials using Rodrigues' formula, specifically showing that the integral from -1 to 1 of P_n(x) squared equals 2/(2n+1). Participants explore the application of integration by parts and differentiation techniques on the polynomial expression. A suggestion is made to manipulate the formula by differentiating multiple times to simplify the integral. The conversation emphasizes the importance of careful substitution and differentiation to arrive at the desired result. The exchange highlights the analytical methods involved in working with Legendre polynomials.
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using Rodrigues' formula show that $$\int_{-1}^{1} \,{P}_{n}(x){P}_{n}(x)dx = \frac{2}{2n+1}$$

$${P}_{n}(x) = \frac{1}{2^nn!}\frac{d^n}{dx^n}(x^2-1)^n$$

my thoughts

$$\int_{-1}^{1} \,{P}_{n}(x){P}_{n}(x)dx = \frac{1}{2^{2n}(n!)^2}\int_{-1}^{1} \,\frac{d^n}{dx^n}(x^2-1)^n\frac{d^n}{dx^n}(x^2-1)^ndx$$

let
$$u = \frac{d^n}{dx^n}(x^2-1)^n$$ and $$du =\frac{d^{n+1}}{dx^{n+1}}(x^2-1)^ndx$$
$$dv = \frac{d^n}{dx^n}(x^2-1)^ndx$$ and $$v = \frac{d^{n-1}}{dx^{n-1}}(x^2-1)^n$$

so
$$uv=\frac{d^n}{dx^n}(x^2-1)^n\frac{d^{n-1}}{dx^{n-1}}(x^2-1)^n$$
$$-vdu=-\int_{-1}^{1} \,\frac{d^{n+1}}{dx^{n+1}}(x^2-1)^n\frac{d^{n-1}}{dx^{n-1}}(x^2-1)^ndx$$

$$uv-vdu = \frac{d^n}{dx^n}(x^2-1)^n\frac{d^{n-1}}{dx^{n-1}}(x^2-1)^n-\int_{-1}^{1} \,\frac{d^{n+1}}{dx^{n+1}}(x^2-1)^n\frac{d^{n-1}}{dx^{n-1}}(x^2-1)^ndx$$

what should I do?
 
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using Rodrigues' formula show that $$\int_{-1}^{1} \,{P}_{n}(x){P}_{n}(x)dx = \frac{2}{2n+1}$$

$${P}_{n}(x) = \frac{1}{2^nn!}\frac{d^n}{dx^n}(x^2-1)^n$$

my thoughts

$$\int_{-1}^{1} \,{P}_{n}(x){P}_{n}(x)dx = \frac{1}{2^{2n}(n!)^2}\int_{-1}^{1} \,\frac{d^n}{dx^n}(x^2-1)^n\frac{d^n}{dx^n}(x^2-1)^ndx$$

let
$$u = \frac{d^n}{dx^n}(x^2-1)^n$$ and $$du =\frac{d^{n+1}}{dx^{n+1}}(x^2-1)^ndx$$
$$dv = \frac{d^n}{dx^n}(x^2-1)^ndx$$ and $$v = \frac{d^{n-1}}{dx^{n-1}}(x^2-1)^n$$

so
$$uv=\frac{d^n}{dx^n}(x^2-1)^n\frac{d^{n-1}}{dx^{n-1}}(x^2-1)^n$$
$$-vdu=-\int_{-1}^{1} \,\frac{d^{n+1}}{dx^{n+1}}(x^2-1)^n\frac{d^{n-1}}{dx^{n-1}}(x^2-1)^ndx$$

$$uv-vdu = \frac{d^n}{dx^n}(x^2-1)^n\frac{d^{n-1}}{dx^{n-1}}(x^2-1)^n-\int_{-1}^{1} \,\frac{d^{n+1}}{dx^{n+1}}(x^2-1)^n\frac{d^{n-1}}{dx^{n-1}}(x^2-1)^ndx$$

what should I do?

Hi Another, :)

Interesting question, thanks. Notice that,

$${P}_{n}(x) = \frac{1}{2^nn!}\frac{d^n}{dx^n}(x^2-1)^n=\frac{(2x)n}{2^n n!}\frac{d^{n-1}}{dx^{n-1}}(x^2 - 1)^{n-1}$$

and so on and generally for a differentiation of $r$ times we get,

$${P}_{n}(x) = \frac{(2x)^{r}}{2^n (n-r)!}\frac{d^{n-r}}{dx^{n-r}}(x^2 - 1)^{n-r}$$

No substitute $r=n-1$ and see what you get. I am sure you'll be able to continue from there :)
 

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