Is Lambda Psi a an Eigenstate of Hermitian Operator A?

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The discussion revolves around the properties of Hermitian operators in quantum mechanics, specifically focusing on eigenstates and eigenvalues. The original poster seeks to demonstrate that if a state is an eigenstate of a Hermitian operator, then a scaled version of that state is also an eigenstate corresponding to the same eigenvalue. Additionally, the discussion touches on the implications of linearity and the concept of degeneracy in eigenvalues.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the relationship between eigenstates and linear operators, questioning the necessity of a formal proof for the scaling property of eigenstates. Some express confusion about the notation and the original question, while others clarify the implications of linearity in this context.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing insights into the properties of linear operators and their implications for eigenstates. Some participants have offered guidance on the mathematical reasoning behind the scaling of eigenstates, while others are questioning the completeness of the proofs presented.

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There is mention of the need to check whether the eigenvalue is non-degenerate, and some participants indicate that all eigenvalues in a related problem are degenerate. Additionally, the discussion includes a reference to a second operator that commutes with the Hermitian operator in question.

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problem based on hermitian operator

Homework Statement



A is an hermitian operator and as we know the eigenstates a of A with eigenvalues a satisfy A psi a = a psi a.

How do we show that lambda psi a (lambda is a non zero complex number) is an eigen state belonging to the same eigen value a. We also need to say whether the eigen value is non degenerate or not.

Homework Equations



We know the property of hermitian operator

(-infinity to + infinity) integral phi* A psi dx = (-infinity to + infinity) psi (A phi)* dx

The Attempt at a Solution



(-infinity to + infinity) integral phi* A (lambda psi a) dx =

(-infinity to + infinity) lambda psi a (A phi)* dx

Dont know how to proceed from here.

Regards.

QP.
 
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Your notation is confusing. Please write down the original question, EXACTLY as it was given to you, and it would help if you used either clearer notation, or the latex capability built in here. From what I can make of it, there seems to be a mistake in the question.

Examples for latex:

A \psi_a = a \psi_a

A |a \rangle = a | a \rangle
 
Here it comes.Could you please tell me where the mistake is.

The eigenstates \psi_a of A with eigenvalues a satisfy
the equation A \psi_a = a \psi_a. We need to show that then also \Lambda\psi_a with an arbitrary complex number \Lambda not equal to 0, is an eigenstate belonging to the same eigenvalue a.Need to check if the eigenvalue is nondegenerate or not
 
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I don't understand the question, obviously if \psi_a is an eigenstate of \hat{A} with eigenvalue a then \Lambda \psi_a is also an eigenstate with the same eigenvalue. This just follows from the fact that A is linear.
 
is there no proof for this. I mean can't we take a complex number of the form z=x+iy and prove the same.Since A is linear how can we conclude that,is there no mathematical proof for this.
 
Sure. Let \hat{A} be any linear operator with eigenvalue a and \Lambda any complex number.

Then

\hat{A} (\Lambda \psi) = \Lambda \hat{A} \psi = \Lambda a \psi = a (\Lambda \psi).
 
So as I understand Hermitian operator is also a linear operator, which is why we could perform this operation.If B is a second commutation operator which commutes with A such that

[A,B] = 0.

How do we show that A \psi = a \psi and B \psi = b \psi ? i.e to show that these operators have simultaneous eigenstates.

All eigen values in this problem are degenerate.

Is this proof correct:
Since

if [A,B] = 0
AB = BA
AB-BA = 0

AB \psi = Ab \psi = bA\psi = ba\psi = ab\psi = aB\psi = Ba\psi = BA \psi

therefore

A \psi = a \psi and B \psi = b \psi
 
That doesn't seem correct to me. It looks like you've assumed your answer in your proof.

If A,B commute then AB = BA. Suppose \psi is an eigenstate of A with corresponding eigenvalue a. Then

A\psi = a \psi
BA\psi = a B\psi
A(B\psi) = a (B\psi)

Thus B\psi is an eigenstate of A with the same eigenvalue. Thus if the eigenvalue is non-degenerate B\psi is proportional to \psi.
 
We know that the hermitian operator S interchanges coordinate x with −x. On consider
the Hamiltonian H = p^2/2m + V (x) for a particle in a one dimensional
symmetric potential V (x) = V (−x). What can be said
about the wavefunctions in view of what we proved above i.e A \psi = a \psi and B \psi = b \psi.

How to proceed in this case?.
 

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