Problem on atomic spectra of H-atoms

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the atomic spectra of hydrogen atoms, specifically addressing why multiple spectral lines are observed despite hydrogen having only one electron. Participants explore various aspects of atomic transitions, energy levels, and the implications of using hydrogen gas.

Discussion Character

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  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether the spectrum of lines results from a single transition from one atom.
  • Another participant discusses the concept of energy levels, mentioning ground and excited states, and asks if these levels are continuous.
  • One participant suggests that the presence of multiple hydrogen atoms in a gas could account for the numerous lines observed in the spectrum.
  • A later reply confirms that each atom can emit various spectral lines depending on its energy state and transition, explaining the multiplicity of lines.
  • Another participant emphasizes that the spectrum is due to discrete energy levels and outlines the series of transitions (Lyman, Balmer, Paschen) that produce different spectral lines.
  • One participant challenges the idea that the number of lines is solely due to the number of atoms, asking why the lines would differ if that were the case.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the reasons for the multiple spectral lines, with some attributing it to the presence of multiple atoms and others focusing on the discrete energy levels and transitions of individual hydrogen atoms. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the primary cause of the observed spectral lines.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about the nature of atomic transitions and the behavior of hydrogen gas may not be fully explored, and the discussion does not clarify the relationship between the number of atoms and the distinct spectral lines.

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Homework Statement


Although H-atom contains one electron yet we get a number of lines in the spectrum of Hydrogen. Why??
 
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One transition causes only one line. But does the spectrum of lines come from only one single transition from one atom??
 
What do you know about the energy levels that the electron can be in?

Ground state? Excited state? Are these continuous? ...
 
I think maybe that there are 2 atoms in one molecule of Hydrogen...so if we calculate we get about 6.023 x 1023 x 2 atoms in total.
Maybe that's why we get a lot of lines?? You know 'cause we are using Hydrogen gas.
 
agnibho said:
I think maybe that there are 2 atoms in one molecule of Hydrogen...so if we calculate we get about 6.023 x 1023 x 2 atoms in total.
Maybe that's why we get a lot of lines?? You know 'cause we are using Hydrogen gas.

Yes, that's for one mole of hydrogen gas molecules. And the spectrum is of-course measured for a hydrogen gas sample :wink: The atoms have various energy states. Some will be in the ground state, others in first excited state, second excited state and so on. Each atom emits a spectral line depending on which transition occurs, explaining the multiple lines.

Also, every single atom can also emit all these spectral lines. The only difference is, it emits them separately, requiring appropriate excitation for emission.
 
agnibho said:

Homework Statement


Although H-atom contains one electron yet we get a number of lines in the spectrum of Hydrogen. Why??
We're just talking about the spectrum due to the atom here.

This depends on your knowledge level, but since this is a homework question, I'm guessing you have learned a little on the fact that the Hydrogen atom has discrete energy levels. Depending on where (in terms of energy level) the electron transitions to (label this n') and from (label this n), there is a unique spectral line, e.g. if it transitions to the ground state (n'=1) you get the Lyman series (for n=2,3,4...), and so on for n'=2 (Balmer); n'=3 (Paschen); etc...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen_spectral_series

I can't tell what education level you're doing this for, but if you're up to it, Quantum Mechanics is where you'll find the deeper explanation of why the spectrum is discrete.

[Edit:] Actually, in the interest of re-enforcing questioning; if the fact that there are a lot of lines was because you have a lot of atoms as you've suggested, why would they be different lines, and not all one line?
 
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