Problem:two standard users, no administrator how to solve?.help.

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The discussion revolves around the challenges faced by users who have only standard accounts on their systems and are unable to perform administrative tasks, such as installing software or accessing certain functionalities. Participants explore various methods to create or access an administrator account, as well as troubleshooting issues related to system access and user permissions.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes a situation where they cannot install software due to the absence of an administrator account.
  • Another suggests pressing "enter" as a potential workaround for the password prompt.
  • Concerns are raised about whether it is possible to create an administrator account without formatting the system.
  • A participant proposes creating an administrator account as a solution, noting that the method varies by operating system.
  • Questions arise about the specific operating system in use, with mentions of Windows 7, Windows 8, and Mac OS.
  • One user reports being unable to open the command prompt with administrative privileges and receives an "access denied" error when attempting to activate the administrator account.
  • Another participant suggests installing programs in a different directory to bypass permission issues, though this may not work for all software.
  • Booting into Safe Mode is recommended by one participant as a way to access the administrator account, along with a mention of a utility CD that can reset account statuses.
  • There is a discussion about the risks associated with using advanced tools like Hiren's Boot CD, including the potential to render the system unbootable.
  • One user expresses a new issue regarding an administrator account whose password has changed, questioning if it is possible to recover the password from a standard user account.
  • Another participant confirms that recovering the password through a standard user account is not possible and reiterates the use of Hiren's Boot CD for password reset.
  • Concerns about a separate issue involving high memory usage by dllhost.exe are raised, with suggestions for tools to investigate the process further.
  • One participant cautions against elevating a regular user account to administrator status for security reasons, emphasizing the importance of maintaining user privilege separation.

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Participants express a variety of viewpoints on how to address the lack of administrator access, with no clear consensus on the best approach. Some methods are proposed, but the effectiveness and safety of these methods remain contested.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the uncertainty about the specific operating system in use, the potential risks associated with using external tools, and the unresolved nature of the password recovery issue.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for users facing similar issues with administrative access on their systems, as well as those interested in troubleshooting user account permissions and system security practices.

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guys, there are two users in my system which are 'standard user' and no one is 'administrator'.

now the problem is that when i am installing any software then it's asking to type an administrator password and then press 'yes'.
but there is no blank to type any password and the yes option is dimmed(not highlighted).

please. help.
 
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Try pressing "enter". I have found it sometimes works.
 
is there no chance of having an administrator?.
do i need to completely format the system, inorder to solve this?.
 
The simplest way to solve this is create an administrator account. The precise methodology to do so varies based on your operating system. A search engine query such as "create administrator account" on your favorite search engine might be helpful.
 
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Is this for Windows 8 or Windows 7 or Mac OS or what?

Under Mac OS, only administrators can create accounts (either administrator accounts or non-administrator accounts). I'd expect it to be the same under Windows.
 
command prompt is not opening in 'run as administrator'. it's asking 'type an administrator password and then press enter'. but there is no blank for typing password and 'yes' option is dimmed.
so i simply opened it and typed: net user administrator /active:yes.
it displays: system error 5 has occurred. access is denied.
then how to resolve?..help.
 
For Windows, there is always an administrator account on your local machine. Your trouble is that you are not an administrator. You must obviously have a limited account which will deny you to do certain functions on your machine.

One way around this is to not install your program in the file "Program Files", but in another directory accessable only to you that you will create such as "My Programs". This may or may not work since it will depend upon what type of program you are attempting to install and what your program needs to access from the system.
 
First, try booting into Safeboot and see if the administrator option is available there. Normally, there's a default admin account that you do not have access to in normal mode.
Here's how you restart in safemode
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-ca/...-safe-mode#start-computer-safe-mode=windows-7

If you are able to log in as an admin, just elevate one account to administrator and you're done.

If that doesn't work, there's a utility CD you can use to reset/create/upgrade accounts on your system to admin status. It's called Hiren's Boot CD
http://www.hirensbootcd.org/download/

Here's a video that shows you how. It's not very good (I searched for about 2 seconds, you will probably find a better one if you search more), the audio quality is poor but you can follow what's going on to see what you need to do.



Hope this helps.

P.S. This is an advanced tool and as with all repair tools, it has the ability to properly break your OS if you make a mistake. If that happens, you will likely render your system unbootable and will be forced to wipe the system and reinstall the OS. If you don't know what you're doing/don't want to take the risk, just take the computer down to a computer repair store.
 
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is it f8 or f7 for safe mode in windows 7 home basic os.
 
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It's F8
 
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new problem pl. help...
now there is one standard user and one administrator user, i don't know how the administrator user password is changed. i am unable to login as administrator, i am just logging as standard user.
is there a chance to know the administrator password through the standard user?.
 
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i have already downloaded it, now do i need to burn it to disc?.. also it is zip file and i don't have winrar in my system.. can i download it in other file format?..since i don't have access to admin, i can't install winrar again...
what to do.
 
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Use another computer to burn the disk. Go visit a friend or something.
 
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hi! yesterday i downloaded a video with format "3d mp4" .
from then onwards, in the task manager dllhost.exe is going on consuming the memory and not at all stopping, even if i kill it, it is again starting.
pb. is when i am opening a folder the contents are not being displayed.
any solution to this problem.
waiting for ur good solutions...
 
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sam topper. said:
hi! yesterday i downloaded a video with format "3d mp4" .
from then onwards, in the task manager dllhost.exe is going on consuming the memory and not at all stopping, even if i kill it, it is again starting.
pb. is when i am opening a folder the contents are not being displayed.
any solution to this problem.
waiting for ur good solutions...

Screenshot please.
 
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dllhost and the related rundll32 program are legitimate programs that the OS uses to carry out tasks. For example, then you open your system properties window, dllhost is launched to run the appropriate dlls.
Now, because of the way dllhost and rundll32 work, they allow dll's to be run as applications. Spyware programs often use this process to carry out their tasks because the default windows tool, Task Manager, only shows the host, not the dll(s) they are running.

There are tools that you can use that may help you with determining if the dll being run is malicious or safe.
You can download a tool called Process Explorer
here's the link
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-ca/sysinternals/bb896653.aspx

Then run the program as administrator, set it to show attached dll's and then examine what exactly the dllhost process is running.
Here's an example of what process explorer looks like.

First click on the "View DLLs button on the top. This will display attached DLLs to each process thread.
Then find the dllhost that is using all your processor time.
Click it to select it and mouseover the line, it will give you a popup window like the image. If it doesn't move your mouse away and mouseover the line again.
Under COM class in the popup, it should identify what exactly it is running.
Then you can decide if it's okay or not.

If you do not know what the dll does, google the filename to determine if it is malicious or not.

In the screenshot I posted, the attached dll is idstore.dll and a quick google search indicates this file is safe.
 

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IMHO it is not wise to simply elevate the user account that you regularly use to Admin privileges. I'm not saying anyone recommended this, just trying to be thorough and clear. One of the values of upgrading from XP is the regular user who can invoke admin privileges when needed, but ONLY when needed. If you use it all the time for convenience you compromise your system security.
 

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