Graduate Solving Jackson's 3rd Ed. Equations Involving A, L and g

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The discussion revolves around solving equations from Jackson's 3rd edition, specifically concerning the relationships between matrices A, L, and the metric tensor g. Participants clarify the determinant of the matrix exponential, confirming that it holds true under specific conditions for L. They also address the confusion regarding the expression g = e^g, explaining that it relates to the Taylor expansion of the metric tensor rather than a direct equality. The conversation highlights that A and L are not metrics themselves, and the calculations referenced in Jackson's text are exact rather than approximations. Overall, the participants gain clarity on the mathematical principles involved in the equations presented.
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I am reading Jackson's book, where on (p.545) I got some doubts.
In Jackson, (3rd edition p. 545), there are equations they are given as,
$$A = e^L $$
$$det A = det(e^L) = e^{Tr L}$$
$$g\widetilde{A}g = A^{-1} $$
$$ A = e^L , g\widetilde{A}g = e^{{g\widetilde{L}g}} , A^{-1} = e^{-L}$$
$$ g\widetilde{L}g = -L $$

I have several doubts.

1) $$det(e^L) = e^{TrL}$$ How determinant is equal to RHS of equation?, does here are we assuming there is special type of L ?

2) Now in $$ g\widetilde{A}g = e^{{g\widetilde{L}g}}$$, How is it possible to have $$g = e^{g}?$$
 
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yes doubts are questions.
Oh, I come to know about the first part but still for second question how is it possible to have metric tensor equal to exponential of metric tensor?
 
anbhadane said:
but still for second question how is it possible to have metric tensor

Is ##g## the matrix for the metric tensor for Minkowski spacetime in Cartesian coordinates? If so, then ##g^2## = ##I## and ##g = g^{-1}##. Consequently,
$$\begin{align}
e^{g \tilde L g} &= e^{g \tilde L g^{-1}} \\
&= I + g \tilde L g^{-1} + \frac{1}{2!} \left( g \tilde L g^{-1} \right)^2 + \frac{1}{3!} \left( g \tilde L g^{-1} \right)^3 + \ldots \\
&= I + g \tilde L g^{-1} + \frac{1}{2!} g \tilde L g^{-1} g \tilde L g^{-1} + \frac{1}{3!} g \tilde L g^{-1} g \tilde L g^{-1} g \tilde L g^{-1} + \ldots \\
&= g I g^{-1} + g \tilde L g^{-1} + \frac{1}{2!} g \tilde L^2 g^{-1} + + \frac{1}{3!} g \tilde L^3 g^{-1} +\ldots \\
&= g \left( \tilde L + \frac{1}{2!} \tilde L^2 + \frac{1}{3!} \tilde L^3 + \dots \right) g^{-1} \\
&= g e^{\tilde L} g^{-1} .
\end{align}$$
 
anbhadane said:
Oh, I come to know about the first part but still for second question how is it possible to have metric tensor equal to exponential of metric tensor?
He has that ##A=e^L##, here ##A## isn't a metric, neither is ##L##.
 
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Now I got it. I was thinking in very different way. First one was easy, and second one is essentially taylor expansion. But here we are just taking approximation, thank you all of you.
 
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Now I got it. I was thinking in very different way. First one was easy, and second one is essentially taylor expansion. But here we are just taking approximation, thank you all of you.
There are no approximations. What George Jones wrote is exact.
 
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Oh,sorry , got it.
 
Oh, similar way of expansion, calculations on 547, are done. In Jackson's (p.547) equation such as (11.94) , (11.96), (11.98) are expanded by Taylor expansion.
 

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