Problem with gears — One geared wheel spins up another

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The discussion centers on the mechanics of gear interactions, specifically the application of Newton's third law and the conservation of mechanical energy in geared systems. The user attempts to derive relationships between torques and angular velocities for two gears, A and B, using equations that relate their kinetic energies and torques. Despite following a logical method, the user reports discrepancies in the answers, indicating potential miscalculations or misunderstandings in applying the principles of mechanics. The conversation highlights the practical application of these principles in industrial machinery, such as presses and shear machines.

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I am trying to solve a problem by torques and conversation of energy, but the answers don't match.
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t = rf
E = constant
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By third Newton's law, i would imagine that fa = -fb, so
and assuming f to be the average value

torque in A
-ra*f*t = Waf - Wao
torque in b
rb*f*t = Wbf

and

Ia*wo² = Ib*wbf² + Ia*waf²

it Looks right to you? I really appreciate this method that i thought, but the answers don't match, and i don't know what is wrong.

THe justification to use the conservation of mechanic would be: The work done by one force will be equal to the work done by the reaction force, but opposite in signal, so it cancel.
 
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You could treat gear A as a flywheel.
There are many industrial presses and shear machines that use that principle for conforming and cutting metal.

Please, see:
https://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/flywheel-energy-d_945.html

The kinetic energy of gear A (Joules) will have to keep moving both gears after contact is established.

##E_{kA}=(1/2)(I_A)(\omega_0)^2##
 
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