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The original poster is attempting to solve the equation f(x) = 2x^3 - 5x - 5 and show that there is at least one value of c for which f(c) equals pi. There is some confusion regarding the value of pi, with the poster initially assuming it to be 3.14.

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  • Participants discuss the use of the Intermediate Value Theorem (IVT) and the need to find an interval [a, b] where f(a) and f(b) straddle the value of pi. There is also uncertainty about the correct interpretation of pi and its value.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on using the IVT and suggested bounds for pi. The discussion is exploring different interpretations of the problem, particularly regarding the value of pi and its implications for the solution.

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There is confusion regarding the value of pi, with participants questioning whether it should be approximated as 3.14 or considered in its more precise form. The continuity of the function f(x) is acknowledged, as it is a polynomial.

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Hi I am trying to solve the following problem.

f(x) = 2x^3 - 5x - 5
show that there is atleast one value of c for which f(x) = pie

I am assuming they want me to use pie = 3.14

so I did the following

2x^3 - 5x - 5 = 3.14

but then I don't know how to solve for x can someone please give me some kinda hint to get me started?

Thanks
 
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donjt81 said:
I am assuming they want me to use pie = 3.14

I sure hope they don't!


f(x) = 2x^3 - 5x - 5 is a continuous function (right?), what kinds of theorems or results do you have on continuous functions that might be useful here?
 
ok so i have to use the intermediate value theorem. i still don't understand the pie thing... if its not 3.14 then what do they want me to use for pie.

so with the IVT i would do the following

1] define an inteval [a, b] such that when i find f(a) and f(b) one value is bigger than "pie" and the other value is less than "pie"

2] I would also have to show that f is continuous in that interval [a, b]

so for example if i find out that f(a) < "pie" < f(b) then i can say that yes there does exist a point c where f(c) = "pie"

but I don't know what "pie" is i guess so I'm not sure what I am looking for.
 
donjt81 said:
ok so i have to use the intermediate value theorem. i still don't understand the pie thing... if its not 3.14 then what do they want me to use for pie.

pi=3.141526535... it does not equal any truncated sum with a finite number of digits (it also has no "e" on the end). For your purposes you can probably safely assume some bounds like 3<=pi<=4 and find an a and b where:

f(a) < 3 <= pi <= 4 < f(b)

as for continuity, f(x) is a polynomial. You should know something about polynomials and continuity.
 
thanks got it
 

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