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The discussion revolves around the mechanisms of antiproton production, particularly in the context of the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) and related experiments at CERN. Participants explore the processes involved in creating antiprotons and clarify their usage in various particle physics experiments.

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  • One participant inquires about the specific mechanism for antiproton production for use at the LHC.
  • Another participant asserts that antiprotons are not used in the LHC but provides links to information about their production through hadron collisions and separation processes.
  • A different participant references a source suggesting that antiprotons are produced at the LHC, mentioning the Antiproton Decelerator and its role in generating antiproton beams.
  • Another reply emphasizes that while CERN conducts experiments with antiprotons, the LHC itself is primarily a proton-proton collider.
  • One participant describes a general process for producing antiprotons, involving sending protons into a target, collecting negative particles, and utilizing a storage ring to isolate antiprotons from other particles.

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Participants express differing views on the role of antiprotons at the LHC, with some asserting they are not used while others suggest they are produced there. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the specifics of antiproton usage in the LHC.

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There are limitations in the discussion regarding the clarity of definitions and the specific contexts in which antiprotons are produced and utilized, as well as the potential for confusion between different CERN facilities.

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Hey

I was just wondering anyone knew the mechanisim (specific if you got it) by which they create the antiprotons for say use at the LHC.

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-G
 
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You don't use antiprotons in LHC..

But here are some information about antiproton production (mainly its done by hadron collisions, then you separate the antiprotons from the rest of the particles)

http://indico.cern.ch/conferenceDisplay.py?confId=34682
http://indico.cern.ch/conferenceDisplay.py?confId=34683

http://www.fnal.gov/pub/inquiring/questions/antimatter1.html
(The Tevatron at Fermilab uses antiproton in collisions)

http://ed.fnal.gov/talks/fermilab1994/web/acc_tour_antip.html


The mechanism is often:
proton + lead target -> Sum of hadrons
 
this site
http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/topics/Large_Hadron_Collider

seems to suggest they do use them at the LHC, or at least produce them there
he Antiproton Decelerator will produce a beam of anti-protons at 2 GeV, after cooling them down from 3.57 GeV. Finally the Super Proton Synchrotron Super Proton Synchrotron

The Super Proton Synchrotron is a particle accelerator at CERN . ...

can be used to increase the energy of protons up to 450 GeV.


Cheers for links!
 
Well of course they produce and do experiemnts with antiprotons at CERN, but LHC is still a good ol 'proton-proton collider ;-)

CERN is more than the LHC.

Here is more info about their antiparticle experiemnts

http://livefromcern.web.cern.ch/livefromcern/antimatter/factory/AM-factory01.html

(real source)
 
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Basically, you send protons into a target and collect the negative particles produced. You put them in a storage ring and the unstable particles - everything except antiprotons and electrons -decay. The electrons lose energy through synchrotron radiation so after a while you're left with antiprotons and nothing else. You can then cycle the system again.

Lather, rinse and repeat.
 
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