Projectile, finding landing distance - given landing angle

In summary, the problem involves a skier leaving a ramp with a velocity of 10.7 m/s and an angle of 15.8° above the horizontal. The slope is at an angle of 51.3° and air resistance is negligible. The distance from the ramp to the landing point is calculated using kinematics equations and the slope equation. The final answer is 52.5 m. However, a simpler method is to eliminate time and use the projectile's y(x) graph, resulting in the distance formula D= X/cos(51.3°).
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Homework Statement

A skier leaves the ramp of a ski jump with a velocity of 10.7 m/s, 15.8° above the horizontal. The slope is inclined at 51.3°, and air resistance is negligible. Calculate the distance from the ramp to where the jumper lands.

Homework Equations

Kinematics ones

The Attempt at a Solution

I assumed an x-axis along the height of the ramp, and developed equations for the curve of the skier and the line of the slope of the hill..

first, distance to from slope to highest point of jump

vi(y) = sin15.8 *10.7 = 2.9134 /9.8 = t = .29728 , 2.9134 +0 /2 * t = .4331 m

So the y distance of the jumper should equal the distance he has fallen at time (t) +.4331

x = (t+.2972)*cos15.8 *10.7
y= -4.9t^2 +.4331

these are only valid for t> 2.9134 but that shouldn't matter?

sooo tan 51.3 *1 = 1.248 is the slope of the line the x and y distance need to intersect... sloping downard from the angle of the jump so it will be negative

okay , solving for t(x) -->10.296t + 3.06=x , (x-3.06)/10.296= t

plug this into the y distance equation

-4.9 [ (x-3.06)/10.296 ]^2 +.4331

-4.9 [( x^2 -6.12x +9.364)/ 106] +.4331
(-4.9x^2 + 29.99x - 45.88)/106 +.4331
-.0462x^2 + .283x -.00027 = y

now the line it needs to intersect, slope found above, since it originates from the jump which determined as the axis, the equation should by y= -1.238x

equate these equations
-.0462x^2 + .283x -.00027 = -1.238x
-.0462x^2 + 1.52x -.00027 = 0

x= 32.9 m

with this distance the time would be 3.2 s, making the y distance .5*9.8(3.2-.297)^2 = 41.3 -.433 (measured from jump height not from heighest point of projection ) 40.9 m ... the slope of these two distances i pretty close to the desired one (i have rounded messily and a bunch, will redo + fix ...)

so, the total distance down the jump would be sqrt ( x^2 +y ^2 )

= 52.5 m

Im unsure of this answer, i just wanted to know if anyone can see a mistake i made? I really am completley lost as to if i went about solving this correctly. Also, since the slope of the this line is negative, do i report it as a negative distance?

Thank you ! :)
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Laura, your work is correct, although you might made some rounding errors, but you overcomplicated the problem. I understood that you put the origin of the coordinate system at the top of the slope, and the x-axis is horizontal, the y-axis points vertically upward.

The y and x coordinates of the projectile change according to the functions

y(t)=vi sin(α) t-g/2 t^2 , x=vi cos(α) t, where α=15.8°

during the whole flight. No need to calculate the time of rise and the time of fall.

You can eliminate the time and you get the y(x) graph of the projectile.

y=x tan(α)-g/2 x^2/(vi cos(α))^2

The equation for the slope is y=-tan(51.3°)x

Equate the two equations for y and solve for x. You get two roots: one is zero, the initial common point of the slope and skier. The other gives the x coordinate of the landing point. D= X/cos(51.3°) gives the desired distance, which, naturally, has to be positive.



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Great! Thanks for your tips! that will certianly help from running out time on exams haha

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