Projectile Motion marble Problem

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The problem involves a marble rolling off a table and determining its velocity at impact, incorporating concepts from projectile motion. The scenario specifies initial horizontal velocity and height, while also noting the time of fall previously calculated.

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Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss using kinematics to solve the problem, with some expressing confusion over the approach. There is mention of using energy methods as an alternative, but one participant insists on sticking to kinematics. Questions arise regarding the interpretation of variables and the correct application of equations.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different methods and clarifying their understanding of the kinematic equations. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of initial and final velocities, but no consensus has been reached on the best approach.

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One participant emphasizes the need to adhere strictly to kinematics, indicating that there may be homework constraints that limit the methods available for solving the problem.

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Homework Statement


A marble rolls off a table with a velocity of 1.93 m/s [horiz]. The tabletop is 76.5 cm above the floor. If air resistance is negligible, determine the velocity at impact.
-[tex]\Delta[/tex]t has been found in a previous question; =0.395 s
-I know the answer is 4.33 m/s [63.5 degrees below the horizontal]

Homework Equations


[tex]\Delta[/tex]d=-.5a([tex]\Delta[/tex]t)2-v2([tex]\Delta[/tex]t)


The Attempt at a Solution


[tex]\Delta[/tex]d=-.5a([tex]\Delta[/tex]t)2-v2([tex]\Delta[/tex]t)
0.765 = -.5(9.8)(.395)+v2(.395)
but I get velocity to equal 1. something m/s?
 
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Do you want to exclusively use kinematics, or do you just want the answer? If you just want the answer, I say go the easy route: energy. I've said this before on this forum already.

Be sure to only consider the y-axis energy.
 
i have to do it the kinematics way..
don't confuse me with the energy just yet! haha.
 
Using kinematics makes it more confusing actually. =)

But to answer your question, if you know the time it takes to fall, and you know what acceleration it goes through, it's a simple matter of [tex]v_f(t) = v_0 + a t[/tex]. Plug in initial velocity in y direction and time, then you have the y component of the velocity vector. Air resistance is nonexistent, so the horizontal velocity stays the same. Take the magnitude of this vector.

I plugged in the numbers myself (using WolframAlpha!) and got the right answer.
 
LoveandHate said:
[tex]\Delta[/tex]d=-.5a([tex]\Delta[/tex]t)2-v2([tex]\Delta[/tex]t)


The Attempt at a Solution


[tex]\Delta[/tex]d=-.5a([tex]\Delta[/tex]t)2-v2([tex]\Delta[/tex]t)
0.765 = -.5(9.8)(.395)+v2(.395)
but I get velocity to equal 1. something m/s?
V2 is not final velocity, it's initial velocity and in the y direction it is equal to?
 

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