Projectile Motion Problem: Finding Horizontal Position at a Given Height

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The discussion revolves around a projectile motion problem where a projectile's height and velocity are given, and participants are tasked with finding the horizontal position at a specified height (3/4 of the initial height). The subject area is kinematics, specifically focusing on projectile motion equations.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the use of kinematic equations to relate horizontal and vertical motion, questioning how to find time and the relationship between the two equations. There are attempts to clarify initial conditions and variable dependencies.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided hints and guidance regarding the relationships between the equations and the importance of time in both dimensions. There is an ongoing exploration of the calculations involved, with some participants expressing confusion over the quadratic formula and the signs in their equations.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted assumption regarding the initial height of the projectile and the requirement to find the horizontal position at a specific height. Participants are also grappling with the implications of negative values in their calculations and the correct setup of their equations.

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Homework Statement



At a time t, a projectile is measured to have a height Y = 12 m above the ground and a velocity v = 4 m/s at an angle (theta) = 42 with respect to to the horizontal. At what horizontal positions is the particle at a height 3/4 Y ?

Height= 12 m
Velocity= 4 m/s
Angle= 42 degrees

Homework Equations



I believe both the range equation x= x0 + V0xt and y= y0 + V0yt - (1/2)gt2

The Attempt at a Solution



I tried to to use the second equation, but I had trouble with time since it was not given. I used 4sin(42) for V0y, but I don't think it helped me much.

This should be simple, I can tell, but I am just stuck.
 
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You are on the right track with your attempt but you need to find a relationship between the two equations. (HINT: What do the x position and Y position equations have in common)
 
They both have initial velocities, and those can be figured out using the velocity given and the angle. X0 would be 4cos(42) and Y0 would be 4sin(42).

Am I getting any closer?
 
Think variable. Both functions are dependent on time.
 
Would I have to set them equal to each other by solving for time? I know that the time is the same for both directions.
 
I also recently tried using the quadratic formula with my Y equation, but I end up getting a negative under the radical. I am not sure why.
 
Remember that the generic quadratic eq is ax^2+bx+c. You should get a positive number
 
If I use y= y0 + V0yt - (0.5)gt2

I get

12= 0 + 4sin(42)t-(9.8/2)t2

In the general equation form, it is:

-4.9t2+4sin(42)-12

Unless this is incorrect, my answer is negative under the radical.
 
y_0 is 12 not zero. Y should be 3/4
 
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So what would be the final Y position? It seems like since it is in motion, it would start at zero.
 
  • #11
RjD12 said:

Homework Statement



At a time t, a projectile is measured to have a height Y = 12 m above the ground and a velocity v = 4 m/s at an angle (theta) = 42 with respect to to the horizontal. At what horizontal positions is the particle at a height 3/4 Y ?

Height= 12 m
Velocity= 4 m/s
Angle= 42 degrees

From the problem we can assume that at t=0 the Y position is 12m. The last line ask us to solve from is 3/4 of Y or 0.75*12. Thus your equation for Y should look as follows:
0.75 *12 = 12 + 4* sin(42)*t - 9.8/2*t^2
 
  • #12
Okay. Yes, that looks like what I have after fixing it. I must be creating some sort of error in my calculations then, because I plugged the equation : -4.9t2 + 4sin(42)*t +3 into a graphing calculator, and there is indeed a positive value.

It is odd. Using the quadratic formula, underneath the radical, which is sqrt(b^2-4ac),
b^2= (4sin(42))^2, but 4ac is a bigger number, being : 4 (-4.9)(3)= 58.8.

I might just be doing something wrong I suppose.
 
  • #13
You are forgetting you negative sign. A = -9.8
 

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