Projectile Motion question help

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The problem involves projectile motion, specifically analyzing the trajectory of a ball projected horizontally from a rising helicopter. The helicopter ascends at a uniform velocity, and the ball is projected with a specified horizontal velocity while at a certain height above the ground.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the effects of gravity on the vertical motion of the ball and the independence of horizontal velocity from the time to reach the ground. There is an exploration of the initial conditions of the ball's motion, particularly its upward velocity at the moment of projection.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided insights regarding the forces acting on the ball and the significance of the initial upward velocity. There is ongoing clarification about the relationship between the vertical and horizontal components of the motion, with participants questioning the application of equations of motion.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the neglect of air resistance and the importance of understanding the initial conditions of the ball's motion as it is projected from the helicopter.

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Homework Statement



A helicopter is rising vetically at a uniform velocity of 14.7 m/s. When it is 196 m from the ground, a ball is projectted from it with a horizontal velocity of 8.5 m/s with respect to the helicopter. Calculate:
a) When the ball will reach the ground
b) Where it will hit the ground
c) What its velocity will be when it hits the ground

Answers are: 8.0 s, 68 m, 64 m/s 82 degrees below horizontal



Homework Equations



c² = root of a² + b²

d = v1 t + 1/2 a (t)²



The Attempt at a Solution



So i drew out the path of the projected ball and used Pythagorean theorem to solve the 2 vectors of 14.7 [N] and 8.5 [E]

and i get 16.9 m/s [N 60 E]

I used d = v1 t + 1/2 a (t)²
to get distance

However, my answer comes out incorrect (by a lot)

so i used:

V2 ^ 2 - V1 ^2 = 2 a d

285 / 2(-9.8m/s^2) = d

d = 15 m

However, That is not the correct answer.

Looking for someone to point me in the right direction, thanks.
 
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For part one, you must realize that the only force (neglecting air-resistance) is gravity, which only occurs in the y (downward) direction. So the time to reach the ground is independent of the horizontal velocity!

Another thing to remember that when dropped the ball has an initial velocity that is not 0. The helicopter that dropped the ball is moving upward!

Does that give you a nudge in the right direction?
 
I don't quite understand what you mean. I understand that gravity is the only force acting upon Vy, but how do you get the time as to when it will reach the ground?
 
You all ready have the equation:

d = d0 + v0t - 1/2at^2
 

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