Projectile Motion Questions: Solving for Height, Velocity, and Time

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The discussion revolves around solving four projectile motion questions related to a can falling from a basket. Participants calculate the height of the basket, the vertical velocity of the can, and the time it takes for the can to hit the ground. The height is debated to be 30 meters, leading to a recalculated fall time of approximately 2.86 seconds for the can. Additionally, it is clarified that the can will hit the ground before the basket, which continues to fall at a constant speed. Accurate calculations and understanding of initial velocities are emphasized throughout the conversation.
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Homework Statement



The information required is in this picture: http://i.imgur.com/Dt7F9pg.png

There are four questions based on what is in the picture.

The questions are:

1) Calculate how high above the ground the floor of the basket is before the can falls out of the basket.
2) Determine the vertical component of the can's velocity as it leaves the basket.
3) Find the time it takes for the can to hit the gouned after it leaves the basket.
4) Find the time that elapses between the basket touching the ground and the can.

Homework Equations



Projectile motion equations:
Vertically:

\ddot{y}=a

\frac{d\dot{y}}{dt}=a\therefore \int d\dot{y}=\int adt\therefore \dot{y}=u\sin\theta +at

\frac{dy}{dt}=u\sin\theta +at\therefore \int dy=\int \left ( u\sin\theta +at \right )dt\therefore y=u\sin\theta t+\frac{a}{2}t^{2}

Horizontally:

\ddot{x}=0

\frac{d\dot{x}}{dt}=0\therefore \int d\dot{x}=\int 0dt\therefore \dot{x}=u\cos\theta

\frac{dx}{dt}=u\cos\theta\therefore x=u\cos\theta t

The Attempt at a Solution



1) ??
2) 3 m/s
3) 0.612
4) The same time?
 
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1. The balloon has constant speed. So where is it 10s before it hits the ground.
2. Right
3. How did you find that if you didn't know how high was it when released? You should better consider it again. (It is also wrong)
4. Nope... The basket continues falling in the same speed as before. The can is on free fall with initial speed.
I suggest you make good schematics for every phase of the procedure and the forces involved on the can
 
I thought the balloon's velocity would be increasing because of gravity but the question says it is constant. Does that mean the hight would be 30 m?

For question 3, the answer would become 2.86 s if the height the can is released at is 30 m.

For number 4, the can would hit the ground first and after 7.14s the balloon would hit it, right?
 
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"For question 3, the answer would become 2.86 s if the hight the can is released at is 30 m."
Check your calculations here. g = 9,81 right? you aree close
 
I just recalculated it and got 2.8. Don't know how I got it wrong the first time.
Thank you!
 
You are correct. I forgot about the initial vertical component of the can.
 
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The book claims the answer is that all the magnitudes are the same because "the gravitational force on the penguin is the same". I'm having trouble understanding this. I thought the buoyant force was equal to the weight of the fluid displaced. Weight depends on mass which depends on density. Therefore, due to the differing densities the buoyant force will be different in each case? Is this incorrect?

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