Projectile Motion: Shooting over a hill

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The problem involves projectile motion, specifically analyzing the trajectory of a projectile fired at an angle θ with initial speed v0. The tasks include finding the highest point of the trajectory, the range, the angle for optimal firing, the initial speed, and the flight time, all expressed in terms of given variables.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss various expressions for the highest point and range of the projectile. There is an exploration of the relationship between the angle θ, height H, and range R, with attempts to derive θ using trigonometric relationships. Some participants express confusion about how to relate their findings back to the original problem requirements.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on how to approach finding the angle θ by considering the time to reach half the range and the corresponding height. Others have successfully derived an expression for θ, indicating progress in the discussion, but there remains uncertainty about how to express certain relationships clearly.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the challenge of expressing the angle θ in terms of H and R, as specified in the problem statement. There is also mention of potential confusion regarding the application of trigonometric identities and the setup of the projectile motion equations.

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Homework Statement



A projectile is fired with speed v0 at an angle θ from the horizontal as shown in the figure (see attachment).

Homework Equations



A. Find the highest point in the trajectory, H. Express the highest point in terms of the magnitude of the acceleration due to gravity g, the initial velocity v0, and the angle θ.

B. What is the range of the projectile, R? Express the range in terms of v0, θ, and g.

C. Find the angle theta above the horizontal at which the projectile should be fired. Express your answer in terms of H and R.

D. What is the initial speed? Express v0 in terms of g, R, and H.

E. Find tg, the flight time of the projectile. Express the flight time in terms of H and g.

The Attempt at a Solution



A. H=(v0sin(θ))2)/2g

B. R=v02sin(2θ)/g

C. I know that arctan(2H/R)=θ, however this isn't the correct answer. I've tried everything I can think of, but don't know how to solve this part.
 

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kkernodl said:
C. I know that arctan(2H/R)=θ, however this isn't the correct answer

What you need to do is find the time it takes for the range (x) to be R/2 and then find θ such that the height (y) is H.

Your expression is valid for a triangle connecting the starting point to the peak but that doesn't have anything to do with the projectile problem.
 
hotvette said:
What you need to do is find the time it takes for the range (x) to be R/2 and then find θ such that the height (y) is H.

Your expression is valid for a triangle connecting the starting point to the peak but that doesn't have anything to do with the projectile problem.

I found the position function in the x direction and set it equal to R/2. This gave me that the time, t, such that the position of x is R/2 is t=v0sin(2θ)/2gcosθ.

I can use trig identities to simplify this to t=v0sinθ/g

I can find the position function of y: Sy=v0t-4.9t2, but I'm not sure what to plug in.

I'm also very confused as to how I'm supposed to express the answer in terms of H and R, as the question specifically asks.
 
I was able to answer it using my original answer.

I had to find the ratio of H/R, which is sinθ/4cosθ or (1/4)tanθ.

I set (1/4)tanθ=H/R and solved for θ, which gave me θ=arctan(4H/R), which is the correct answer.
 

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