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The discussion focuses on using Ito's formula to prove the relationship zn+2 = (n+1)zn for the expected value of a Wiener process raised to the power n. Participants clarify that E[W(1)]n refers to E[W(1)^n] and debate whether Ito's formula is necessary for this calculation. It is noted that while Ito's formula can be applied, the problem can be approached more simply through elementary probability theory. A suggestion is made to apply Ito's formula to the function f(W) = W^n, leading to an ordinary differential equation that relates different expected values. The conversation emphasizes the challenge of applying stochastic calculus concepts to this problem.
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Homework Statement


For all integers n >= 1 define zn = E[W(1)]n. Use Ito's formula to prove that zn+2 = (n+1)zn. Compute zn for all integers n >= 1. z = mu.


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How do we use Ito's formula, do we use it directly?
 
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It looks like you're doing some work in stochastic here, but it's impossible to tell what you're trying to do. Could you define a few more things?

I assume E[] is the expectation, what is W(1)?
 


Sorry.
I have proved the Ito formula for the special case W(1)3 = 3*integral from 0 to 1 of W(1)2 dW(t) + 3*integral from 0 to 1 of W(1) dt
 
I was told to try doing it by induction but I have never done induction before. Please help.
 
squenshl said:

Homework Statement


For all integers n >= 1 define zn = E[W(1)]n. Use Ito's formula to prove that zn+2 = (n+1)zn. Compute zn for all integers n >= 1. z = mu.


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The Attempt at a Solution


How do we use Ito's formula, do we use it directly?

If by {W(t)} you mean a standard Wiener process with W(0)=0, then calculation of E[W(1)^n] does not need Ito's formula (although you could use Ito, but that would be doing it the *hard* way). Your problem, as written, does not involve stochastic integration, but is just a simple problem in elementary probability theory! Think about the nature of W(t): what is its probability distribution for any fixed value of t?

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Both the problem and the title of the original post say to use Ito's formula, so we should consider how to do this.

Does E(W(1))^n mean E(W(1)^n)

I'm not an expert on the stochastic calculus. So let me ask if E(W(t)^n) , as a function of T, is equal to \int_0^T W(t)^n dW_t? If so, perhaps section 1.8 of these class notes is relevant: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...sg=AFQjCNG1sNKK8JK-WNvfqVq8MHAz6dXmug&cad=rja
 
Stephen Tashi said:
Both the problem and the title of the original post say to use Ito's formula, so we should consider how to do this.

Does E(W(1))^n mean E(W(1)^n)

I'm not an expert on the stochastic calculus. So let me ask if E(W(t)^n) , as a function of T, is equal to \int_0^T W(t)^n dW_t? If so, perhaps section 1.8 of these class notes is relevant: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...sg=AFQjCNG1sNKK8JK-WNvfqVq8MHAz6dXmug&cad=rja

The answer to your question is NO. If f is a C^2 function, and W(t) is a standard Wiener process, the Ito formula says: for Y(t) = f(W(t)) we have
\displaystyle dY = f'(W) dW + \frac{1}{2} f''(W) dt
Apply this to f(W) = W^n and use the fact that {W(t)} is non-anticipatory (i.e., events in {W(s), s > t} are independent of those in {W(s), s <= t}) to simplify the expectation E[d(W(t)^n)] = dE[W(t)^n] and get an ODE connecting Fn(t) to F_{n-2}(t), where Fk(t) = E[W(t)^k]. Then use the known values of F1(t) and F2(t) to get all the Fn(t), at least in principle. As I said, this is doing it the hard way.

RGV
 

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