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The forum discussion centers on proving the combinations formula: \(\frac{n!}{m!(n-m)!} = \frac{n!}{(m-2)!(n-m + 2)!} + 2 \cdot \frac{(n-1)!}{(m-1)!(n-m)!} + \frac{(n-2)!}{(m-2)!(n-m)!}\). Participants explore various approaches to simplify the equation and identify common denominators. A key insight is the realization that the problem may contain a typographical error, suggesting an alternative formulation involving \(\binom{n-2}{m-2}\) instead of the original expression. The discussion emphasizes the importance of correctly applying factorial identities and common factors in combinatorial proofs.

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Homework Statement


Prove the following:

\frac{n!}{m!(n-m)!} = \frac{n!}{(m-2)!(n-m + 2)!} + 2* \frac{(n-1)!}{(m-1)!(n-m)!} + \frac{(n-2)!}{(m-2)!(n-m)!}



The Attempt at a Solution



I tried writing following

\frac{n!}{m!(n-m)!} = \frac{n!}{m!(n-m)!}(\frac{m(m-1)}{(n-m + 2)(n-m + 1)} + \frac{2m}{n} + \frac{m(m-1)}{n(n-1)})

Now i should get \frac{m(m-1)}{(n-m + 2)(n-m + 1)} + \frac{2m}{n} + \frac{m(m-1)}{n(n-1)} = 1
but i don't get 1. Any other ideas?
 
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Hint: m! = m * (m-1) * (m-2)!
 
I know that, but where to use it?
 
your m(m-1)/n(n-1) is wrong :redface:
 
I rechecked it two or three time i really don't see how it is wrong.
 
Government$ said:

Homework Statement


Prove the following:

\frac{n!}{m!(n-m)!} = \frac{n!}{(m-2)!(n-m + 2)!} + 2* \frac{(n-1)!}{(m-1)!(n-m)!} + \frac{(n-2)!}{(m-2)!(n-m)!}
What is the lowest common denominator for the right-hand side ?

The Attempt at a Solution



I tried writing following

\frac{n!}{m!(n-m)!} = \frac{n!}{m!(n-m)!}(\frac{m(m-1)}{(n-m + 2)(n-m + 1)} + \frac{2m}{n} + \frac{m(m-1)}{n(n-1)})

Now i should get \frac{m(m-1)}{(n-m + 2)(n-m + 1)} + \frac{2m}{n} + \frac{m(m-1)}{n(n-1)} = 1
but i don't get 1. Any other ideas?
 
(m-1)!(n-m+2)!
 
I don't understad why, since (m-2)! doesn't contain (m-1) nor (n-m)! contains (n-m+2)! or (n-m+1)!
 
If i want get whole expression under one fraction i should multply first fraction with (m-1)/(m-1) to get n!(m-1)/(m-1)!(n-m+2)! , second fraction with (n-m+2)(n-m+1)/(n-m+2)(n-m+1) to get
(n-1)!(n-m+2)(n-m+1)/(m-1)!(n-m+2)! , and third with (m-1)(n-m+2)(n-m+1)/(m-1)(n-m+2)(n-m+1)
to get (n-2)!(m-1)(n-m+2)(n-m+1)/(m-1)!(n-m+2)!
 
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Government$ said:
I don't understad why, since (m-2)! doesn't contain (m-1) nor (n-m)! contains (n-m+2)! or (n-m+1)!
You were correct. I deleted my post, but you must have seen it before I deleted it.
 
  • #11
Government$ said:
If i want get whole expression under one fraction i should multply first fraction with (m-1)/(m-1) to get n!(m-1)/(m-1)!(n-m+2)! , second fraction with (n-m+2)(n-m+1)/(n-m+2)(n-m+1) to get
(n-1)!(n-m+2)(n-m+1)/(m-1)!(n-m+2)! , and third with (m-1)(n-m+2)(n-m+1)/(m-1)(n-m+2)(n-m+1)
to get (n-2)!(m-1)(n-m+2)(n-m+1)/(m-1)!(n-m+2)!
That's virtually unreadable as it is written. Break it up into separate lines & give it some space...

As follows:
If i want get whole expression under one fraction i should multiply:

first fraction with (m-1)/(m-1) to get
n!(m-1)/(m-1)!(n-m+2)! ,​
second fraction with (n-m+2)(n-m+1)/(n-m+2)(n-m+1) to get
(n-1)!(n-m+2)(n-m+1)/(m-1)!(n-m+2)! ,​
and third with (m-1)(n-m+2)(n-m+1)/(m-1)(n-m+2)(n-m+1)
to get
(n-2)!(m-1)(n-m+2)(n-m+1)/(m-1)!(n-m+2)!​

So the numerator is (m-1)n! + 2(n-m+2)(n-m+1)(n-1)! + (m-1)(n-m+2)(n-m+1)(n-2)! .

There's a common factor of (n-2)! , right?
 
  • #12
After that i get (n-2)!*(n(n-1)(m-1) + 2(n-m+2)(n-m+1)(n-1) + (m-1)(n-m+2)(n-m+1))/(m-1)!(n-m+2)!

i tried and i can't find any other common factor in numerator and i have common factors between two products such as (n-1) , (m-1), (n-m+2)(n-m+1). Only other way is to multiply everything and then try to factor out something that will cancel m-1 and (n-m+2)(n-m+1) in denominator.
 
  • #13
Government$ said:
\frac{n!}{m!(n-m)!} = \frac{n!}{(m-2)!(n-m + 2)!} + 2* \frac{(n-1)!}{(m-1)!(n-m)!} + \frac{(n-2)!}{(m-2)!(n-m)!}
Have you checked whether it even seems to be true? Try n=m=2.
 
  • #14
haruspex said:
Have you checked whether it even seems to be true? Try n=m=2.
I was about to ask a similar question.

This may also be what tiny-tim was suggesting.Is there a typo in your expression?

In terms of binomial coefficients, what the OP states is that you are trying to prove that

\displaystyle \ \binom{n}{m}=\binom {n} {m-2}+2\binom {n-1} {m-1}+\binom {n-2} {m-2}\ .
 
  • #15
SammyS said:
I was about to ask a similar question.

This may also be what tiny-tim was suggesting.


Is there a typo in your expression?

In terms of binomial coefficients, what the OP states is that you are trying to prove that

\displaystyle \ \binom{n}{m}=\binom {n} {m-2}+2\binom {n-1} {m-1}+\binom {n-2} {m-2}\ .

That is exactly what i need to prove, i just didn't know how to write it like that using Latex. Here is full text of problem:

Prove that \displaystyle \ \binom{n}{m}=\binom {n} {m-2}+2\binom {n-1} {m-1}+\binom {n-2} {m-2}\ n\geq2, m \geq2

When i plug in n=m=2 i get \frac{0}{0} = \frac{2}{0} + \frac{2}{0} + \frac{0}{0}
 
  • #16
Government$ said:
Prove that \displaystyle \ \binom{n}{m}=\binom {n} {m-2}+2\binom {n-1} {m-1}+\binom {n-2} {m-2}\ n\geq2, m \geq2

When i plug in n=m=2 i get \frac{0}{0} = \frac{2}{0} + \frac{2}{0} + \frac{0}{0}
No, 0! = 1. \binom{0}{0} = \binom{2}{0} = 1
 
  • #17
Yea, i overlooked that. With that in mind.

Let n=m=2

\frac{2!}{2!(2-2)!} = \frac{2!}{(2-2)!(2-2 + 2)!} + 2* \frac{(2-1)!}{(2-1)!(2-2)!} + \frac{(2-2)!}{(2-2)!(2-2)!}

\frac{1}{1(0)!} = \frac{1}{(0)!1} + 2* \frac{1}{1(0)!} + \frac{(0)!}{(0)!(0)!}

1 = 1 + 2 + 1

1 = 4
 
  • #18
Government$ said:
That is exactly what i need to prove, i just didn't know how to write it like that using Latex. Here is full text of problem:

Prove that \displaystyle \ \binom{n}{m}=\binom {n} {m-2}+2\binom {n-1} {m-1}+\binom {n-2} {m-2}\ n\geq2, m \geq2

When i plug in n=m=2 i get \frac{0}{0} = \frac{2}{0} + \frac{2}{0} + \frac{0}{0}
Do you suppose the problem should have been to prove

\displaystyle \ \binom{n}{m}=\binom {n-2} {m-2}+2\binom {n-2} {m-1}+\binom {n-2} {m}\,,\ n\geq2, m \geq2 \ ?
 
  • #19
Maybe i will try to slove it,

This problem should be difficult according to my textbook, here is a pic from my textbook:

http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/8316/img00121201304241927.jpg
 
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  • #20
SammyS said:
Do you suppose the problem should have been to prove

\displaystyle \ \binom{n}{m}=\binom {n-2} {m-2}+2\binom {n-2} {m-1}+\binom {n-2} {m}\,,\ n\geq2, m \geq2 \ ?

I managed to prove this without much problem.
Probably it is a typo in my textbook.
 

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